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  • bbguns44
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1182

    Target Masters & Wolf ammo

    Target Masters in Milpitas wouldn't let me shoot my Sig 9mm using
    Wolf steel cased ammo. They were mumbling about aluminum case.
    I didn't push & just bought some ammo from them.
    Anyone know the reason for the ban on steel cased pistol ammo ?
  • #2
    civilsnake
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 2261

    Originally posted by bbguns44
    Target Masters in Milpitas wouldn't let me shoot my Sig 9mm using
    Wolf steel cased ammo. They were mumbling about aluminum case.
    I didn't push & just bought some ammo from them.
    Anyone know the reason for the ban on steel cased pistol ammo ?
    You can't reload aluminum casings, and they make money by selling the spent casings to reloaders.
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    • #3
      rrr70
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 1832

      Same story with Reeds. I said ef it, and went to Jackson Arms.
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      • #4
        RogueSniper
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3749

        Ditto. The range doesn't want to spend the time sifting through 1000s of casing to throw out the steel or the aluminum (Blazer).

        I use a brass catcher I bought from Midway - it's stupid contraption but it works - so I can collect my own brass for reloading. Ask them to let you use the steel or aluminum if you police your own or bring a brass catcher.
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        • #5
          bbguns44
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 1182

          I'll go some place else. I don't particularly like their range anyway.

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          • #6
            nobs11
            Banned
            • Jun 2008
            • 1381

            Originally posted by bbguns44
            I'll go some place else. I don't particularly like their range anyway.
            Even if you buy brass cased ammo from them, chances are you won't be allowed to pick up your own brass because they sell it. If you paid for the ammo, the brass should belong to you.

            Indoor ranges are best avoided.

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            • #7
              Bowser
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 1969

              Originally posted by RogueSniper
              Ditto. The range doesn't want to spend the time sifting through 1000s of casing to throw out the steel or the aluminum (Blazer).]
              He's right. TMW closes at 12am, good luck finding a range in the area that stays open as late. I don't want to spend all my sifting through the brass to pick up all the steel or aluminum casings exposing myself to more lead than I need to. There are other things to do when closing up the shop for the night.

              If you really want to pick up your brass, mark them and you'll be fine.

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              • #8
                louscamaro91
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 3522

                thats dumb if you pay to use the range and shooting your own gun then why should they care... it's not like the idiot buying the brass can't pick the steel stuff out when he sorts it anyway. does not make sense to me

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                • #9
                  Gryff
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • May 2006
                  • 12686

                  And of course it would be wrong to take a box of brass-cased stuff out of your bag when they ask to inspect your ammo, then go into the shooting bays and load up with your aluminum-cased stuff.
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                  • #10
                    hkfooey
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 740

                    Funny thing - we always shot late at night (after 10 pm) ... by the time we are done, most of the shooters are gone and we can just "clean" the range with whatever casings left behind. The guy at the counter don't care - since we are cleaning up for them (in a way) and less work for them.
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                    • #11
                      Bowser
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1969

                      Originally posted by louscamaro91
                      thats dumb if you pay to use the range and shooting your own gun then why should they care... it's not like the idiot buying the brass can't pick the steel stuff out when he sorts it anyway. does not make sense to me
                      Their business, their rules. Want to do whatever the hell you want go to shoot at some BLM land or something.

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                      • #12
                        nobs11
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1381

                        Originally posted by louscamaro91
                        tit's not like the idiot buying the brass can't pick the steel stuff out when he sorts it anyway. does not make sense to me
                        Some ranges have contracts with commercial brass processors. The process happens automatically.

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                        • #13
                          The Cable Guy
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1277

                          I don't see a problem with steel casings getting mixed up in brass. Just use a magnet!

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                          • #14
                            Moonclip
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4390

                            Originally posted by Gryff
                            And of course it would be wrong to take a box of brass-cased stuff out of your bag when they ask to inspect your ammo, then go into the shooting bays and load up with your aluminum-cased stuff.
                            Yes it would be wrong, and ranges that disallow steel cased and aluminum cased ammo get little to none of my business, especially if they spread FUD like how steel cased ammo blows up guns I am not an ammo sneak, I just shoot elsewhere.

                            It's a greed and convenience thing as a magnet can separate the steel cased rounds. I know of more than a few indoor ranges that allow aluminum and/or steel cased ammo. Heck aluminum cased ammo seems more of a PITA as it is not removeable with a magnet.

                            Some calibers such as 9x18 Makarov,the majority of the ammo comes in steel cases loadings and brass cased loadings tend to be expensive and harder to find.

                            Whats next, ranges saying you can't shoot berdan primed brass cased ammo?

                            This stuff can really get out of hand. For some reason Oaktree range on their pistol side did/does only allows certain calibers! It seems that they kowtow to their ammo reloader/supplier and he does not want to sort the odd calbered brass cased ammo out like 9mmLargo and such.

                            Needless to say I have yet to shoot at this range.

                            That range in LA next to skid row, you are not allowed to pick up your own brass! Insights in Artesia has tried this policy as well and quitely revoked it after some loss of business it seems.
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                            • #15
                              Theseus
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 2679

                              I even sent them an e-mail asking why I could not use Wolf and if they had an alternative for my 9x18...no response, just ignored me.

                              I don't go to indoor ranges for several, and the ammo restriction on top of the fact that I can't take my rifles or shotguns is another.

                              I already got rid of one PITA FEG PA-63...I am almost wanting to get rid of the M38...ONLY because I can't find anything but steel.
                              Nothing to see here. . . Move along.

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