Single stack .40 options

[Maht_g]

So I had to pick up another gun today so I went shop hopping and went to 5 gun shops, learned a few things.

First, I don't want sig! Too much crap on gun with the decocker and safeties, gun felt cluttered. Might be the best thing since sliced bread but I don't want to get into that type of platform. Just not for me.

Second, shield grip still sucks a fatty! Just plain doesn't feel good in my hand in stock form but held a used one with hogue slip on grip and it made all the difference. Much better to hold. One guy behind the counter carries one and said it started rusting and pitting right away, the finish isn't very tough. Showed me the putting and it wasn't pretty after only a couple months being carried in climate controlled environment. I know it's just a carry gun but cleaning and oiling it every night just isn't practical. Can get one otd for $454

Third, found a smoking deal on a new kahr pm40. Brand new with night sights otd for $658! It's stainless so it won't rust. Smaller package than shield but lose a round... Best price elsewhere I can find is $840 otd for the same gun...

Thinking I'm going to go back tomorow and nail down the kahr unless someone can talk me out of it

[MontClaire]

Or wait until Glock comes out with single stack 40s&w

Instant buy!

[SkyHawk]

So I had to pick up another gun today so I went shop hopping and went to 5 gun shops, learned a few things.

First, I don't want sig! Too much crap on gun with the decocker and safeties, gun felt cluttered. Might be the best thing since sliced bread but I don't want to get into that type of platform. Just not for me.

Uhmmm, Sig doesn't have a safety, but whatever. Slide release, decocker, takedown lever - I could see where you would think it was cluttered. None of them have to be manipulated to draw and save your life. Just like the Kahr, the first shot is DA. Unlike the Kahr, subsequent shots are SA and much more quick and accurate. US Navy Seals carry P226 and P239 - maybe you are right, probably not for you

P239 DAK is much like the Kahr if DAO is your thing - no decocker. http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu.../p239-dak.aspx

But it sounds like you were sold on the Kahr from the get go - I always say buy what you like.

[nbirnbaum2]

Uhmmm, Sig doesn't have a safety, but whatever. Slide release, decocker, takedown lever. None of them have to be manipulated to draw and save your life. Just like the Kahr, the first shot is DA. Unlike the Kahr, subsequent shots are SA and much more quick and accurate. US Navy Seals carry P226 and P239 - maybe you are right, probably not for you

P239 DAK is much like the Kahr if DAO is your thing - no decocker. http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu.../p239-dak.aspx

But is sounds like you were sold on the Kahr from the get go - I always say buy what you like.

He beat me to it. I suspect OP needs to actually shoot the weapons in question.

Unlike the Kahr, subsequent shots are SA and much more quick and accurate. Especially with the SRT.

[nbirnbaum2]

OP have you tried an HK USP40 compact by chance?

[Cnynrat]

First, I don't want sig! Too much crap on gun with the decocker and safeties, gun felt cluttered. Might be the best thing since sliced bread but I don't want to get into that type of platform. Just not for me.

This is why I suggested earlier that you stay with a common platform across all your pistols. Especially for your carry gun, its operation needs to be second nature. You don't want to be drawing it and thinking "Oh wait, this is the Sig not the Glock."

I only shoot Sigs other than from time to time when I pick up one of my wife's M&Ps, so Sigs feel just right in my hand.

BTW as others have pointed out there is no safety on the Sig.

[Mayor McRifle]

SIG P239. I have two -- a .40 and a 9mm. IMO they are perfect for CCW.

[tatsuosan1964]

I own the Kahr PM40 and really like it. The only problem that it is so light that the trigger guard beats the crap out of my finger when shooting SD rounds through it. I can only shoot so many at one time at the range before I call it quits. In a real shootout you won't get to get many rounds off. Much smaller than my G27 but bigger than my LCP. It is about the same size as a S&W 637 but thinner and 6 rounds of 40 versus 5 rounds of 38 special.

The P239 is much bigger than the PM40 as well as much heavier. To each his own but the only time that I would carry the PM40 is if I couldn't wear the clothing to hide something bigger. G27, G23, and G29 are my choices besides the PM40 and LCP.

[Maht_g]

This is why I suggested earlier that you stay with a common platform across all your pistols. Especially for your carry gun, its operation needs to be second nature. You don't want to be drawing it and thinking "Oh wait, this is the Sig not the Glock.

I agree that's why I decided it wasnt for me. Just wanted to hold one due to such high recommendations. It was heavy and enough different it's not something I want.

Oh and I mistook the slide release for a safety, shows how long it took me to decide it's not my cup o tea. My mistake, I was wrong.

[rambutan316]

Walther PPS would be my top pick, but very expensive

[KrisDSA]

Karh pm40

[Bad Caselaw]

Or wait until Glock comes out with single stack 40s&w

Or, skip the .40 and go with the single stack .45ACP GLOCK G36.

Great IWB/CCW pistol.




Caselaw

[SansSouci]

My friend's daughter is considering buying a handgun. I recommended a P-239 in .40 S&W. The first gun she ever fired was my Model 60 with standard .38 Special loads. There ain't a single doubt in mind that she could tame a .45 ACP.

For some undefined reason, gun store sales people think women can't shoot big handguns. I taught another woman to shoot with my Sig P229 with factory 180 grain loads. She had it dialed in within 2 magazines. I've seen petite women do some serious .45 ACP work w/o any problem. But that's a whole other issue.

My P-229 is the most reliable handgun I own. Years ago I had given thought to buying a P-239. After thinking about it, I decided that my P-229 is not much larger, about .3" wider, & holds more rounds, which means I don't have to carry a spare magazine. More importantly, I carried the same gun on & off duty. So I skipped the P-239 idea. But were I in the market for a single stack .40 S&W, I'd go with a P-239.

[nbirnbaum2]

Or, skip the .40 and go with the single stack .45ACP GLOCK G36.

Great IWB/CCW pistol.




Caselaw

If you go that route let me know. My G36 has become a safe queen after I got the HK compact

[Maht_g]

G36 isn't enough thinner than g27 to be worth starting with another caliber. Already have 4 different pistol calibers. I'd actually like to drop one, but I like the guns too much!

KrisDSA you have experience with pm40? I found one for helluva deal but keep going back and forth in my mind