Help with P226

[tbc]

The yellow flakes are normal.

For the FTFire diagnostic, insert a pencil in the barrel with an erasure facing the firing pin. Cock the hammer and press the trigger. If the pencil shoots across the room, then it were the ammo not your sig.

No ammo in the room please

[Gem1950]

The yellow flakes are normal.

For the FTFire diagnostic, insert a pencil in the barrel with an erasure facing the firing pin. Cock the hammer and press the trigger. If the pencil shoots across the room, then it were the ammo not your sig.

No ammo in the room please

Agreed. Check the potency of the firing pin. If you get a poor response with the pencil trick it may be gunk in the FP chamber.

[Crazydave]

the gold stuff is brass rubbing no big deal. my sigs shoot anything

Ok please do this.

1Thoroughly clean and lube the gun with grease. Pay extra attention to the rails. blow some canned air through firing pin channel in case of debris DO NOT take apart beyond standard field strip unless you know what you are doing. Dont mess up your warranty
2 try some different ammo... federal/speer/whatever

3. if that all fails have them send an rma and prepaid box DO NOT take to your ffl... they will take longer. Tim prefers email fyi

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Roger that

I will clean the gun. ( what additional attention is needed with respect to rails. Certain areas to look at?) They were pretty well lubed with milcomm Tw25b


I will blow out with canned air
And try different ammo

[Crazydave]

Next time you have a failure to fire, make sure the hammer is falling when you pull the trigger and you're not just pulling back on a dead trigger; though with the double action that Sigs have, I can't imagine this would happen. If the hammer does fall when you pull the trigger, try either recocking the hammer by hand or pulling through the double action; pulling through the double action is going to be safer as you lessen the chance of a negligent discharge. It may be you're getting light strikes and a second strike will do the trick.

Either way, keep your gun well lubed and any early issues may just be teething. But definitely try lots of ammo to see if the problem is repeatable across ammo brands. Like CG said, the 226 should eat anything. I've run reloads, Magtech, PMC, Winchester White Box, Remington bulk pack, and about everything else under the sun, no issues other than very early on and they cleared up in about 300 rounds.

After the failure to fire, it had no problem pulling through DA and firing just fine without racking the slide

It was pretty well lubed. The rails had millcomm tw25b and everywhere else was lubed with hoppes gun oil to the level of "fingerprint" test of anything rubbing or shiny

[AeroEngi]

I didn't read all the comments but have you looked to see if the safety lever has full travel and is able to push the firing pin block out of the way?

[not-fishing]

Brand new in box from LGS even had the sig sauer wrapper around the grip.

That being said.. this is the FACTORY installed Short Reset Trigger. (the "exteme" model came with this)

Did your Sig come with a lightened hammer spring?

My HK USP Expert has a SRT and Lightened Spring. I had light strikes until I switched to Winchester Primers. With these enhanced guns the ability to use hard primer or poor ammo is lost. Now for the last few thousand rounds and only using Win primers - no problems.

The next step in softer primers is Federals which I use on my son's and my competition revolvers which also have lighter hammer springs.

[Crazydave]

Did your Sig come with a lightened hammer spring?

My HK USP Expert has a SRT and Lightened Spring. I had light strikes until I switched to Winchester Primers. With these enhanced guns the ability to use hard primer or poor ammo is lost. Now for the last few thousand rounds and only using Win primers - no problems.

The next step in softer primers is Federals which I use on my son's and my competition revolvers which also have lighter hammer springs.

No lightened spring

[AreWeFree]

Where are you located? I'm certain a local reputable member would be glad to help you.

[Crazydave]

Where are you located? I'm certain a local reputable member would be glad to help you.

I'm in Temecula CA

It's tough to get to the range. The only public ranges are 40 miles away and because I'm a government employee I can't even have my gun in my car in the parking lot at work ( so I can't hit the range after work in any convenient manner)

Sounds like I have a few homework assignments to do before I fully start by blaming the gun itself.

[Barang]

If not sure, I'd wait for 30 seconds rule before ejecting any round. Better be safe than sorry.
When cleaning, make sure that the slide is upside down or in angle so that the oil doesn't get into the firing pin hole. Also, try 115gr factory load ammo.

[P5Ret]

I didn't read all the comments but have you looked to see if the safety lever has full travel and is able to push the firing pin block out of the way?

Your aware that there is no external safety, or firing pin block on a Sig P226, right?

OP I don't recommend taking the firing pin out, unless you are experienced in doing so. Sigs are a bit of a pain the butt to work on. If you are going to use air to blow out the channel make sure you get a can that is dry, do not use a compressor unless there is a moisture trap installed on the line. A tiny bit of moisture inside the firing pin channel can be a huge headache if it starts to form rust in there.

If it continues and I'm betting it won't call Sig it's under warranty let them go over it and diagnose any problems for them to fix. Keep detailed notes when ever you go to the range with it, ammo type number of rounds fired, type of stoppage and what you were doing when it happened. If possible take a shooting buddy with you to keep an eye on your form if you start to have issues.

[AreWeFree]

If not sure, I'd wait for 30 seconds rule before ejecting any round. Better be safe than sorry.
When cleaning, make sure that the slide is upside down or in angle so that the oil doesn't get into the firing pin hole. Also, try 115gr factory load ammo.

I have to disagree here. I fail to see a safety issue for ejecting an unfired round, and although I've never had a hang fire, even so there's nothing to contain the pressure and unless you're dealing with huge capacity rifle cartridges at worst you'd suffer a scratch or bruise. (Always wear eye/ear protection..)

The danger of a hang fire would be keeping it in the chamber and having the gun pointed in an unsafe direction.

I say rack the slide on malfunction, clear the problem.


Also, no need for oil to ever be on the breech face, use a nylon bristle brush to clean off powder residue and wipe with a patch or dry cloth, done.

[AeroEngi]

Your aware that there is no external safety, or firing pin block on a Sig P226, right?

OP I don't recommend taking the firing pin out, unless you are experienced in doing so. Sigs are a bit of a pain the butt to work on. If you are going to use air to blow out the channel make sure you get a can that is dry, do not use a compressor unless there is a moisture trap installed on the line. A tiny bit of moisture inside the firing pin channel can be a huge headache if it starts to form rust in there.

If it continues and I'm betting it won't call Sig it's under warranty let them go over it and diagnose any problems for them to fix. Keep detailed notes when ever you go to the range with it, ammo type number of rounds fired, type of stoppage and what you were doing when it happened. If possible take a shooting buddy with you to keep an eye on your form if you start to have issues.

I never said it has an external safety and it does have a firing pin block.

[P5Ret]

I have to disagree here. I fail to see a safety issue for ejecting an unfired round, and although I've never had a hang fire, even so there's nothing to contain the pressure and unless you're dealing with huge capacity rifle cartridges at worst you'd suffer a scratch or bruise. (Always wear eye/ear protection..)

The danger of a hang fire would be keeping it in the chamber and having the gun pointed in an unsafe direction.

I say rack the slide on malfunction, clear the problem.


Also, no need for oil to ever be on the breech face, use a nylon bristle brush to clean off powder residue and wipe with a patch or dry cloth, done.

I'll even go a step further, pull the trigger again. If the hammer is down and assuming it a DA/SA system you can be fairly certain it's not a squib that cycled the action, go for a double strike on the primer. Your not going to hurt anything with a second strike to the primer, but be sure you know the difference between a failure to fire and a squib, before you attempt that.

[P5Ret]

I never said it has an external safety and it does have a firing pin block.

If your referring to the safety lock as Sig calls it then yes, but there is no way to manually engage or disengage it, or even see it when the gun is assembled. And there is certainly no lever that controls it's travel. I've never heard it referred to as a firing pin block in Sig's armorers course or the 2 update's and re-certification courses. But hey things change, and haven't been through the course since 2012.