Why do people delete the price when they have sold their pistol?

[devious21]

Has been addressed. Asking price is still valuable information when combined with others. Knowing what seller's were asking for, and how long or if, their item sold is all helpful.

Not sure the what the significance of ppt is.

[ke6guj]

To clear storage space. Its easy to run out on these forums.

nope, editing the add to remove the price does not clear storage space. in fact, it uses up even more space in the db since the original post is saved along with the edit. and even when a thread is normally "deleted", it doesn't actually get deleted from the db but is merely hidden from view, the thread is still stored in the db.

[ambiguous216]

OP if you are familiar with pricing for eBay or Craigslists you should be familiar with other avenues to price what you want to sell here on calguns. People do what they want to their ads once it's sold.

Also take into consideration listing price is not always the sales price. Cheers.

[SamsDX]

OP if you are familiar with pricing for eBay or Craigslists you should be familiar with other avenues to price what you want to sell here on calguns. People do what they want to their ads once it's sold.

For the most part, price is a quantification of supply and demand. I would agree with you that there are other avenues to obtain pricing data, even for used guns, on various sites across the internet. However, that data doesn't reflect the supply/demand situation in California because of our laws that artificially constrict or altogether eliminate supply. That's what makes sales data on Calguns particularly valuable - it does reflect the peculiar market conditions in this state where the supply and demand curve is way out whack in comparison to most other parts of the country.

[devious21]

Exactly. If you watch the threads closely, even NorCal and SoCal have fairly different economies, due to ppt and 10 day waits.

When it comes to guns that require ppt, you won't be able to find Internet data on anything useful for ppt prices unless it's an online record of a local transaction (like what we have in our forum). Calguns is one of the only sources of that information. The California section of armslist is another but is vastly inferior.

[jeffrice6]

The entitlement is strong in this thread!!!

[fmxmyway]

nope, editing the add to remove the price does not clear storage space. in fact, it uses up even more space in the db since the original post is saved along with the edit. and even when a thread is normally "deleted", it doesn't actually get deleted from the db but is merely hidden from view, the thread is still stored in the db.

Your right, my attention to detail was lacking and I mis-read the OPs post too quick thinking he was talking about pictures.

[jonzer77]

Yes. As I mentioned before, that data point doesn't exist in a vacuum. The same thing happens with cars, houses, etc. It would be balanced out by other information. It's why they average.

Let's say a house is for sale but all you can see is the asking price of a comparable house in the same area. You see that house has been for sale for 180 days and has had multiple price drops. Similarly, if you see someone's asking price on calguns, you can infer things from the post. You know that it likely sold for that or less than that price. I don't understand how you don't see that having an estimated range is not more helpful than having nothing at all.

The problem your speaking of only arises, if you're researching an item which largely has threads with removed sales prices. Now that data point has less other data to average it out and keep it in check.

To prevent the very problem your describing would be to add more information to the pool and available for the community. The way to defeat bad information is with more knowledge, not less.

I'm not saying every price or piece data is perfect. But it's better than nothing and along with other information becomes very useful. Knowing the starting asking price, how long it took to sell, the relevant comments, etc give a lot of helpful information, even if you personally don't see how they are helpful.

Texas is a non disclosure state for real estate and they seem to be doing just fine. Imagine that, no access to previous sales figures for homes.


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[rand17]

Keep Ad..just mark it sold!! Geezzzo people...

[SamsDX]

Texas is a non disclosure state for real estate and they seem to be doing just fine. Imagine that, no access to previous sales figures for homes.

It's a non-disclosure state for prior sale(s) of the property in question. If you want to analogize the Texas non-disclosure law to this situation, it would be you selling a used gun, and me not being able find out how much you bought it for. This isn't at all the same to what Devious21 is referring to.

What we're talking about is comparable asking prices and limited history.

I can find this information on Zillow.com and Redfin.com. Yes, even for Texas properties.

Nice try, but try again.

And, I would hardly consider the Texas situation ideal. The problems with potential corruption and keeping the elite landowners and developers out of public scrutiny is outside the scope of this thread, but needless to say, even with the purportedly liberal gun laws, I still wouldn't consider moving out there.

[joefrank64k]

The entitlement is strong in this thread!!!

Yep...

[devious21]

Why do people delete the price when they have sold their pistol?

I believe I've said multiple times now that sellers should be free to do what they want, we shouldn't enforce any rules to force them to provide any information.

A few others and I have simply been arguing the merits of why that information is very helpful to everyone. And I've stated continuously that if you don't want to provide it, don't. I've just addressed some of the objections (buyer's privacy, useless info, etc), which I feel are poor arguments not to.

That doesn't sound like entitlement to me, but what do I know.

And keep in mind that the very same community that isn't entitled to the sales information is the same community that makes it effective to sell your items at no cost. Everyone here benefits from everyone else. If we were to lose the Calguns community it would be a loss for everyone involved.

[king kong]

Am I late to the party? Biggest complaint on this site is the prices being removed. Hard to gauge the marketplace buying or selling if you don't have anything to reference. Especially if you don't live on the forum and see the new posts listed every day.

[devious21]

What would keep someone from monkey wrenching, by adding a couple hundred dollars to the sold post

The answer is more posts.

You don't rely on a single post to make a determination. You look at all of them. Identify the averages and mean. The more information available , the less any single post matters.

But right now, there is a large number of sellers who remove that information, which makes the market more susceptible to the manipulation you're describing.

[CK_32]

I love how many on this forum define market pricing..


200 Glocks get sold for $420 in a week, one Glock get sold for $690. $690 is now the Calguns market price