Range Rules: only load magazines in bay?

[Sigbird]

At my range your gun has to be moved from the back bench to the bay in it's case and this should be a rule at all ranges. This way there is no open gun, loaded or not passing through the walkway.

[Lead Waster]

At the ranges ive been to, there is no bench behind the line. The only table space is between the partitions on the firing line.

[mycrstuff]

You can stand in the lobby and watch through the window all of the people that go back to the bench and point loaded guns at you. I have heard the range officers several time say they were tired of people pointing loaded guns at them. I would not want their job.

[pacrat]

"Nothing can ever be made idiot proof, the idiots are just to clever".

Ranges try to do just that. The only safety feature that really matters is found between the ears of the person holding the gun. Sadly it is often either not used or misused.

JM2c

[perpetual otter]

This assumption is part of the reason we face ever increasing gun laws.



If you can't trust them at the range then you can't trust them in public and you can't trust them at home.



Take all the guns away.

LoL

You don't spend a lot of time on public ranges obviously. Or you don't pay enough attention (which is way worse).

[bajadan]

Life hack = buy more magazines and never reload at the range.

[amishfarmer]

It's a common case of people not thinking about the what-ifs with a combination of it's almost never happened before so why would it happen now...
I agree with loaded weapons only at the line...it's the safest procedure...just because someone getting shot in the back while at the range doesn't ever really happen doesn't mean it never will. Also most people won't take or make the time to get properly trained on gun safety basics...
One more reason I shoot at my member only range...I only bring people I trust. I have had to gently remind friends and have had myself reminded about loaded weapons behind the range....we have yet to shoot each other...course all my friends are military trained so we are used to loaded weapons at the line only...

[tbc]

Not idiot proof but my ideal indoor range would be a bullet proof glass door on every sections. No ones are allow to remove their handguns from the range bags outside of that said bullet proof booth. Heck, I'd pay premium membership for it. I understand that some folks are new to handguns that need training and gain the experiences but I ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE LINE.

[Soginator]

They do it for exactly the stated reasons, although sometimes they take it just a little too far. I was teaching my brother to shoot, and was loading mags for him while he was on the firing line. I had no firearms near me, and was clearing loading 10/22 mags which my brother was shooting and just passing them to him but I still got yelled at (my brother would leave the rifle pointed down range, turn to me, get the new mag, and then turn back to his lane). Still, I do agree, there is always one moron.

[erik_26]

LoL

You don't spend a lot of time on public ranges obviously. Or you don't pay enough attention (which is way worse).

No. I don't. I am far too busy to go the range. As often as I would like.

I pay very close attention and if I ever feel the conditions aren't in my best interest, I leave. I don't whine and cry about it. I don't make a big fuss. I don't throw an adult temper tantrum.

Also most people won't take or make the time to get properly trained on gun safety basics...

So only people that have had training should be allowed to handle firearms?

Funny, no one needs training for any of their other rights.

One more reason I shoot at my member only range...I only bring people I trust. I have had to gently remind friends and have had myself reminded about loaded weapons behind the range....we have yet to shoot each other...course all my friends are military trained so we are used to loaded weapons at the line only...

So only people you trust should be allowed to handle firearms near you?


Yep.... typical anti-gun thinking.


I don't know everyone that has a CCW. Since I don't know them, why should I instinctually trust them?

Take away all the guns already.


Military training makes a big difference . I forgot everyone qualifies expert in the military. From the cooks to the medics to the sonar technicians to the front line infantry. They are all of Jason Borne quality when it comes to firearms.


LEOs aren't all equally qualified, proficient or trust worthy either.


People need to get off their high horses and deflate their self-proclaimed importance/qualifications.


Usually the people that run their mouth the most are the least qualified.


If you seriously can't trust the person next to you with a loaded gun then you are paranoid.

[perpetual otter]

No. I don't. I am far too busy to go the range. As often as I would like.



I pay very close attention and if I ever feel the conditions aren't in my best interest, I leave. I don't whine and cry about it. I don't make a big fuss. I don't throw an adult temper tantrum.







So only people that have had training should be allowed to handle firearms?



Funny, no one needs training for any of their other rights.







So only people you trust should be allowed to handle firearms near you?





Yep.... typical anti-gun thinking.





I don't know everyone that has a CCW. Since I don't know them, why should I instinctually trust them?



Take away all the guns already.





Military training makes a big difference . I forgot everyone qualifies expert in the military. From the cooks to the medics to the sonar technicians to the front line infantry. They are all of Jason Borne quality when it comes to firearms.





LEOs aren't all equally qualified, proficient or trust worthy

If you seriously can't trust the person next to you with a loaded gun then you are paranoid.

[erik_26]

Ask yourself this and please answer it honestly, if you can't trust the person next to you on the range, can you or how could you trust them in public with a loaded gun?

If the answer is you wouldn't, then what does that mean? You are in favor of limited gun rights? Does that mean only the people you deem trust worthy could carry fire arms?

Isn't that what we have now and are fighting against? People in power deciding how much and what freedoms we can have?

[perpetual otter]

Ask yourself this and please answer it honestly, if you can't trust the person next to you on the range, can you or how could you trust them in public with a loaded gun?



If the answer is you wouldn't, then what does that mean? You are in favor of limited gun rights? Does that mean only the people you deem trust worthy could carry fire arms?



Isn't that what we have now and are fighting against? People in power deciding how much and what freedoms we can have?

Trust? Loaded guns in public?
We're not discussing CCW or the right to bear arms here. We're talking about rules at the range (one in particular that makes sense) and how some people here don't agree that it makes sense.

The issue here isn't about trust, it's about guidance and keeping everyone safe in an environment that can be potentially very dangerous. Do I trust strangers with loaded weapons around me? No way! But I do appreciate being in an environment where I can share the space with strangers also enjoying shooting while being safe (even if some rules seem redundant to our friendly neighborhood operators).

And I do believe we should restrict access to weapons from violent criminals and the mentally unstable.

[erik_26]

If the range rules don't make you feel safe, you have the right toleave and/or not go there.

If you own the range you can make as many or as light rules as you want.

When people say there are too many idiots at the range and they don't trust them with loaded weapons, I don't see the same people would be less idiotic in public.

Laws and rules based on fear are ridiculous.

Stating that military training some how makes anyone special or better is a false sense of security.

Everyone is equally capable of making mistakes.

[amishfarmer]

wow. I don't even know where to start here......
I'll go back to the topic at hand, safety at a range....
I've seen some pretty stupid things happen at public indoor ranges was all I was getting at. This is usually because noone makes the time to be familiar and practice the basic firearm safety rules...(treat every firearm as if it's loaded, Etc etc)
All I was getting at by the military trained comment was all friends get these basic training principles taught to them and they are followed....I wasn't saying they can shoot a fly off a paper target at 1000yds with a 10/22...
I agree anyone can make mistakes, I've made them at the range so has my friends. Myself and them were quickly corrected and everyone went home with no extra holes in them...