Free fall or 1/4" fall, then pull or release and pull mags?

[The Last American Hero]

Not sure I'm completely OK with free fall mags especially on a gun with extended mag release.

Playing around in simulated combat I've accidentally dropped the mag, especially using weak hand.

I think I'd rather have a mag that pops down about 1/4" when released, then needs to be pulled the rest of the way, or could be slapped back in.

I guess a free fall mag will save you a fraction of a second during a G35 race, but is it best for CCW purpose guns like Shield?

Any cute ways to make a Glock not free falling (besides rubber bands, etc), besides having it really, really dirty?

Maybe a tension wheel or spring mounted in the rear channel. Maybe some fuzz on a mag. Tease up some of the rubber coating.

[AreWeFree]

Not sure I'm completely OK with free fall mags especially on a gun with extended mag release.

Playing around in simulated combat I've accidentally dropped the mag, especially using weak hand.

I think I'd rather have a mag that pops down about 1/4" when released, then needs to be pulled the rest of the way, or could be slapped back in.

I guess a free fall mag will save you a fraction of a second during a G35 race, but is it best for CCW purpose guns like Shield?

Any cute ways to make a Glock not free falling (besides rubber bands, etc), besides having it really, really dirty?

Maybe a tension wheel or spring mounted in the rear channel. Maybe some fuzz on a mag. Tease up some of the rubber coating.

Oh for Pete's sake, you can't be serious.
CGN is turning in to troll central.

[Snoopy47]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxzrahUUTi8

The pistol is reloaded before the falling magazine hits the ground. He can't load any faster because gravity can't drop the magazine any faster

[Voo]

I love a good "Troll"... I feel it can provide some of the internets greatest comedic moments- if it's well done. This post almost has it.. It was a little to obvious though..

[The Last American Hero]

Oh for Pete's sake, you can't be serious.
CGN is turning in to troll central.

You ask me if I'm 'serious'???

This is the next Youtube spooled up after the fast mag reload one posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6zEUYl5FlY

But yes I am serious. Now that you mention it at an armed guard class I was watching when it came time to "present gun to target" for first time with real guns loaded with snap-caps out of 10 students 2 had unexpected mag drops.

On little guns your palm/pinky seems to prevent the mag from free falling all the way till you take further action and that seems fine or even preferable to me.

[Chapped Hide]

I love a good "Troll"... I feel it can provide some of the internets greatest comedic moments- if it's well done. This post almost has it.. It was a little to obvious though..

Oh, I'm sure he is very serious based on history. In regards to the mags, I want mine to shoot out, drop, fall on their own as quickly as possible. Why would you possibly prefer to fumble with removing a mag manually under duress?

[NapalmCheese]

Any cute ways to make a Glock not free falling (besides rubber bands, etc), besides having it really, really dirty?

Give up your glocks and stick with Euro styled Berettas and HKs with the mag release on the heel of the pistol grip.

Euro doctrine was to train people to retain magazines, therefore you push the mag release with the thumb of your weak hand as you grab the mag out of the well. Pocket the mag, place a new one in the well.

[onelonehorseman]

Oh, I'm sure he is very serious based on history. In regards to the mags, I want mine to shoot out, drop, fall on their own as quickly as possible. Why would you possibly prefer to fumble with removing a mag manually under duress?

Agreed. No reason I can imagine to slow down the mag change; faster is better!

[71MUSTY]

I have to admit I cringe when my beautiful mags hit the dirt at the range during practice.

But honestly, in a life or death situation an empty mag is of no value to me and i could care less if it hits the ground. All I really care about is reloading as fast as possible. Let um fall

[m850168]

I want my mags to drop free.

If you're accidentally dropping mags, having them hang in the gun after hitting the release is the wrong solution. Better alternatives include a smaller mag release; a pistol with the mag release in a different location; carrying more mags; and of course simply training until you stop hitting the release by accident.

[AreWeFree]

You ask me if I'm 'serious'???

This is the next Youtube spooled up after the fast mag reload one posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6zEUYl5FlY

But yes I am serious. Now that you mention it at an armed guard class I was watching when it came time to "present gun to target" for first time with real guns loaded with snap-caps out of 10 students 2 had unexpected mag drops.

On little guns your palm/pinky seems to prevent the mag from free falling all the way till you take further action and that seems fine or even preferable to me.

No, I didn't ask if you were 'serious.'

I can't wait to hear what comes next while you are "Playing around in simulated combat."

Here's a summary of your first post: "I modified my gun with an extended mag release and now I can't manipulate my weapon correctly while I play solider. I have crazy ideas on how to modify my gun further to fix my previous modification. What do you think?"

[BamBam-31]

Either remove your extended mag release or buy a revolver.

[onelonehorseman]

Further, If the mag is accidentally being dropped, then I would say there is either an ergonomic issue, or a training/practice issue, that needs to be resolved. One that comes to mind is when the M1 carbine was first issued. It had a push button mag release that was not very far from a very similar push button manual safety switch. After reports of soldiers, in combat situations, accidentally dropping their mags while trying to push the manual safety switch off, the ergonomics were redesigned. The push button safety was replace with a rotary safety switch. The problem was apparently solved.

[The Last American Hero]

I have to admit I cringe when my beautiful mags hit the dirt at the range during practice.

But honestly, in a life or death situation an empty mag is of no value to me and i could care less if it hits the ground. All I really care about is reloading as fast as possible. Let um fall

I'm thinking in that LOD situation it wont be like how you trained and you might be grabbing the gun funny, or be struggling, and that is where accidental mag drops can happen.

Doesn't seem like I'm losing much with smaller guns were by big fat hands sorta keep the mag from dropping free while pull the mag with weak hand, with weak hand holding next mag to load.

Does the Euro mag retention theory including holding the next mag in the weak hand while releasing/pulling the spent mag, or is it only one mag in hand at a time?

Shouldn't a real hot jet pilot type shooter want his mags automatically dropping with slide lock back at last round ejection? And I'd want them loaded against a spring so they don't just fall out but are positively ejected. I'd have the new mag in hand and coming up already as I count my last 3 shots. I'd need to immediately and reflexively slightly cant the grip following last rd/mag simultaneous ejections at slide-lock, to meet my weak hand coming from the weak side so the old and new mags don't collide. Mag insertion would also automatically release slide! I'm super badass that way. Expect this in slow motion in my upcoming Zombie Epic.

[P5Ret]

You ask me if I'm 'serious'???

This is the next Youtube spooled up after the fast mag reload one posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6zEUYl5FlY

But yes I am serious. Now that you mention it at an armed guard class I was watching when it came time to "present gun to target" for first time with real guns loaded with snap-caps out of 10 students 2 had unexpected mag drops.

On little guns your palm/pinky seems to prevent the mag from free falling all the way till you take further action and that seems fine or even preferable to me.

So instead of developing proper handling skills, it is better to have the mag just pop out a fraction? I'm not seeing the advantage here. Basically you have the same problem when it goes either click or bang click, you still have no feeding device feeding the gun. On the floor or sticking out of the butt it still isn't doing what it is suppose to do. Develop proper handling skills and it isn't an issue.