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[9M62]

I did search, though I openly will allow ya'll to slap the crap outta me if I missed it:

How do ya'll go about engraving or serializing your lowers? I know you don't have to legally, but I intend to.

Is there a simple roll press or something that can stamp into 7075 aluminum, or are ya'll talking it to the mall before you mill it out, or what?

Thanks guys, appreciate the info.

[350skylark]

I think its easiest to take it somewhere to get it done before you mill it. Is the lower anodized? you could always do this if its not anodized
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=949819.


Stamping might work but make sure its done before the pocket is milled out, and i wouldn't try it on the magwell area either.

[frenchman]

I've done it before and after milling. A local engraver has his FFL so he's familiar with the gun laws. It's a little expensive but it looks nice.

[victor1echo]

looka th this;
[http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1061926

[uechikid]

I took mine to a locksmith in Walnut Creek (Cousins) that also does engraving. I had him engrave Safe & Fire on both sides. For the serializing I had him engrave a made up company name that consisted of my wife's and my initials, the city that we live in since that is where it was manufactured, multi cal since it will shoot a variety of calibers and a serial number, something like, S/N RL 0001. The other thing that can be added but is not required is a model number. It cost me about $50. Good luck.

[9M62]

Thanks guys.

Can a regular jewelry store or engraver do it, even if its completed? Or do they need an FFL since they're handling a "firearm" per the ATF?

[Jeepers]

regs on engraving if you are doing it for legal marking and not vanity fictional companies

Q: How must firearms be identified?

You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows:

By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch; and

By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes:

The model, if such designation has been made;

The caliber or gauge;

Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the same of the foreign manufacturer or maker;

In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and

In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of business. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134.

The depth of all markings required by this section will be measured from the flat surface of the metal and not the peaks or ridges. The height of serial numbers required by paragraph (a)(1) of this section will be measured as the distance between the latitudinal ends of the character impression bottoms (bases).

The Director may authorize other means of identification upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.

In the case of a destructive device, the Director may authorize other means of identifying that weapon upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) such a weapon would be dangerous or impracticable.

[uechikid]

Thanks guys.

Can a regular jewelry store or engraver do it, even if its completed? Or do they need an FFL since they're handling a "firearm" per the ATF?

Yes. But if they don't have an FFL you have to stay on the premises while they do the work. You can't leave it with them.

[BrassCase]

Go to the hardware store and buy an electric engraver, they are less than $20.00. Engrave a sn on the inside of your magwell or some other place maybe in the FC area. Done.

[9M62]

Go to the hardware store and buy an electric engraver, they are less than $20.00. Engrave a sn on the inside of your magwell or some other place maybe in the FC area. Done.

I have an electric engraver, there's no way I could do it and have it look clean.

I intend on it being clean and proper.

[knucklehead]

Doesn't need to look clean. Just needs to be readable. But if you want it halfway decent. Proactive a lot. I've seen dudes make anything near worker with a hand engraver.

Or just buy a metal stamping kit and hammer. You can find them for cheap. 0-9 and A-Z. I'd say that is the best way. I work do it before I mill anything out though.


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[9M62]

I want it to look clean, not necessarily that it's required to.

[uechikid]

With the hand held engraving tools you can't get deep enough and it will look like $?!t. If you're going to take the time to mill a lower, you want it to look good.
Call around and find out who does this in your area.
Also, if you have it engraved before you mill it you can leave it without worrying about the engraver having anFFL.

[9M62]

Alright, thanks guys.

I'll probably leave this one blank just because it's already done.

I'll have my next one engraved before I mill it.

[dyson]

Vaderspade on these forums does a great job. Can buy a TM80 shipped from him and just tell him what you want on it.