how to check if it's HOT? (Stolen)

[Marquand]

You could give the money to the FFL(IF you Trust them) and tell the seller that he will get the money after the 10-day wait period is up. If he doesn't want to do that then there is probably a problem.

I don't know of a single FFL that would do this. The responsibility of paying for the purchase falls squarely on the buyer, not the FFL.

To reiterate a very solid point made above, if there is anything regarding a PPT that smells of wrongdoing, walk away.

[gorn5150]

I've called the local Sheriffs non emergency number and asked them to run a serial number on a gun I was interested in buying. I told them I wanted to be sure it was clear. This was before you had to buy through an FFL. They ran it and didn't act like it was out of the norm.

[P5Ret]

Ok, so not to start pissing on eachother...So if someone tells a cop that they think someone is breaking the law, the cop can't do anything because it is not already a case? Isn't that what investigating is? If I think my neighbor is making meth, the cop can't investigate if they are not already investigating? what about if a cop is at the swap meet and sees a piece of electronics with the serial number scratched off...wouldn't he check it out? I would think suspicion of selling stolen firearms would be something they would look into. Just say'n...admittedly, I don't really know. If that's true, no wonder we never get our stolen property back.

Your actually confusing the question, with issues that are unrelated to the original OP. He was essentially asking if some LEO would help him out by running the serial number. In that instance it is a violation of policy as well as DOJ's regulations. There are a few people who have lost job's, or been suspended for running celebrities through the system, old girlfriends/boyfriends. Basically if you don't have a need it can't be done. Someone walking in and say I'm buying this gun and want to check if it is stolen is not a need, it's a favor. Especially since there is a system in place that checks this during the transaction.

[Newport]

I would ask, for the age, manufacturer, and model of firearm you are buying it is typical for there to be a case, manual and extra magazines. To illustrate, I did buy an older Kahr K9 which obviously spent most of its life in a safe or bottom of a dresser drawer, but no case or manual which is typical of older Kahrs. Just a thought.

PS I did have to provide my own case so that the FFL could properly inventory the gun during the 10 day wait period.

[cbright1]

I've called the local Sheriffs non emergency number and asked them to run a serial number on a gun I was interested in buying. I told them I wanted to be sure it was clear. This was before you had to buy through an FFL. They ran it and didn't act like it was out of the norm.

That's what I am talking about. Seems fair.

[cbright1]

Your actually confusing the question, with issues that are unrelated to the original OP. He was essentially asking if some LEO would help him out by running the serial number. In that instance it is a violation of policy as well as DOJ's regulations. There are a few people who have lost job's, or been suspended for running celebrities through the system, old girlfriends/boyfriends. Basically if you don't have a need it can't be done. Someone walking in and say I'm buying this gun and want to check if it is stolen is not a need, it's a favor. Especially since there is a system in place that checks this during the transaction.

whos policy? where can I look that up to verify?

[cusco19]

it's all good on my side.. since seller just texted me he's taking an offer that's $100 more than what we agreed on. a bit sad about it.. but that's life.

[71MUSTY]

Just call your AI ant tell them you want to add it to your permit. They will run the sn for ya. LOL

[P5Ret]

whos policy? where can I look that up to verify?

Departmental policy. Don't believe me that's fine. Go to the LE section and ask if there are departmental policies regarding access of DOJ systems as a favor.

[GtRacerH]

Departmental policy. Don't believe me that's fine. Go to the LE section and ask if there are departmental policies regarding access of DOJ systems as a favor.

True. When you log into the system it actually has a warning on the initial screen that basically says 'use of the system is logged and any unauthorized inquiries may lead to dismissal etc". It's something to that effect.

[Carcassonne]

Isn't checking to see if something is stolen a work related inquiry for law enforcement?

I use to always check at the police department if a car, motorcycle, bicycle, stereo, etc was stolen. They never gave me any problems. They would also say "Just because it hasn't been reported doesn't mean it isn't stolen." If someone goes on vacation, and their stuff gets stolen, they can't report it until they get back.



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[eternoplacer]

it's all good on my side.. since seller just texted me he's taking an offer that's $100 more than what we agreed on. a bit sad about it.. but that's life.

Text him back and tell him this is not an auction.

[Oceanbob]

You could give the money to the FFL(IF you Trust them) and tell the seller that he will get the money after the 10-day wait period is up. If he doesn't want to do that then there is probably a problem.

Now that was funny.......

[Doc Hawk]

So if someone tells a cop that they think someone is breaking the law, the cop can't do anything because it is not already a case?

By your reasoning, you're saying it is valid to report to the police that you suspect a crime is being committed because a Californian owns a firearm and is offering it to you for sale via a PPT at an FFL?

Who are you, Kamala Harris?

[Doc Hawk]

If I was the seller, I wouldn't want some FFL to hold onto my money for 10 days.

Spoken like a man who's dealt with too many FFL's