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  • SamGoldstein
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1011

    Kimber Custom 2 shoots left....

    At the range yesterday, using paper targets indoors, I noticed that my Kimber shoots about 3-4 inches to the left at 40 feet. So using some Kentucky windage, I picked an aim point about 4 inches to the right, and sure enough, I was hitting in the target area I intended. So, I'd like to adjust my rear sight, move it to the left. BUT, it is not easy. So doing some research, it looks like it is VERY difficult to move. I would need a "sight adjustment rig" and even that does not look like it can be used to move small increments at a shooting range. So, what do people recommend to adjust the sights? Send it back to Kimber? But how will they know how much to adjust it? Thanks for any help.
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    _TomT_
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3354

    Universal Sight Adjustment Tool, $50 on ebay.

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    • #3
      CessnaDriver
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 10672

      Are you certain it's the gun?
      You know the drill right?


      "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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      • #4
        SamGoldstein
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 1011

        Originally posted by CessnaDriver
        Are you certain it's the gun?
        You know the drill right?
        Yep. I also shot the gun from a benchrest. Same result.

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        • #5
          SamGoldstein
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 1011

          Originally posted by _TomT_
          Universal Sight Adjustment Tool, $50 on ebay.
          The good ones look like they are waaay more than $50. Can they do small adjustments?

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          • #6
            jyo
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2008
            • 5316

            Well, first of all, the gun shoots to the left so the rear sight needs moving to the RIGHT not left to zero the pistol. Second, you don't need a fancy tool to adjust rear sights in their dovetail---a brass drift and a small hammer will do the trick easily in a few seconds. Good luck!

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            • #7
              DArBad
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 3002

              The rear sight is a real pain to move, the front not so much. If you think the front sight is the one that needs adjusting, send it to a gunsmith, or of you are handy with tools, a non-marring hammer and a punch are all you need.

              Be sure to clamp the slide in a vise, lined with leather to mitigate scratching the finish. As to the rear sight, it was put in by the factory using a " hydraulic press " and would be difficult to move. There were relatively few people whom I personally knew who tried the hammer and punch way, they were successful but they all advised to just send the gun to the factory.

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              • #8
                Grunt81
                Senior Member
                • May 2014
                • 658

                If you're not replacing the rear sight, then it should be pretty cheap for a gun smith to move it for you a little. As you said, then the issue is how much to the right? If it were me, I'd probably make an attemp to move it after buying a sight pusher. If you take the sight pusher with you to the range, you can make adjustments as needed until it's zeroed. Definitely shoot it off a rest and as far as you can on paper. I would've expected better from Kimber.

                The cheapest (free) option might be to report the issue to Kimber and send it in so they can make sure the rear sight is centered to their factory specs.

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                • #9
                  manini
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 790

                  Originally posted by jyo
                  Well, first of all, the gun shoots to the left so the rear sight needs moving to the RIGHT not left to zero the pistol. Second, you don't need a fancy tool to adjust rear sights in their dovetail---a brass drift and a small hammer will do the trick easily in a few seconds. Good luck!
                  When adjusting sights I remember FORS: Front Opposite Rear Same
                  Example: If you want to move POI to the right, adjust front sight to the left (opposite) or adjust rear sight to the right (same).

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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    Originally posted by jyo
                    Well, first of all, the gun shoots to the left so the rear sight needs moving to the RIGHT not left to zero the pistol. Second, you don't need a fancy tool to adjust rear sights in their dovetail---a brass drift and a small hammer will do the trick easily in a few seconds. Good luck!
                    +1

                    If you are hesitant, pretty much any qualified smith can drift it for you. Should take max, 10 minutes. There are formulas on the net that will allow you to determine how far right it needs to go.
                    When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                    • #11
                      mjmagee67
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 2771

                      My Custom II has a small Allen set screw in the rear sight, when I loosen that it is pretty easy to move with a brass drift/punch. I also have the $50 sight tool, while it is not necessary to move the sights on my Kimber, it has worked very well on many other guns.
                      If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                      • #12
                        wamphyri13
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2759

                        If you have night sights don't use a punch. You can break the vial and sight goes dark.
                        Ryan
                        The following statement is true.
                        The preceding statement was false.

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                        • #13
                          _TomT_
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 3354

                          I highly suggest not to use a punch of any kind if you have tritium vials in your sights, for one they will mar the sights and two they might cause them to crack. Also a gunsmith will charge you $25-$40 each time, and its also time consuming to drive back to them to have it readjusted.

                          Originally posted by SamGoldstein
                          The good ones look like they are waaay more than $50. Can they do small adjustments?
                          Yes they can make any fine adjustment you want finer than a tap/hammer, the $50 one I personally own and I used them for my Colt HK, Glocks, Sig and CZ. They shouldn't wiggle or have any give due to them having a gasket inbetween the bolts. A quarter turn of a wrench would result in about an inch of drift, so you might want to start off with a 1/16 of a turn.

                          If you plan on buying more 1911s, or simply adjusting more then I suggest you either get:

                          1. target sights - most recommended
                          2. a high quality sight drifting tool $150 for specific brands $500 for universal.

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                          • #14
                            SamGoldstein
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1011

                            Originally posted by Grunt81
                            If you're not replacing the rear sight, then it should be pretty cheap for a gun smith to move it for you a little. As you said, then the issue is how much to the right? If it were me, I'd probably make an attemp to move it after buying a sight pusher. If you take the sight pusher with you to the range, you can make adjustments as needed until it's zeroed. Definitely shoot it off a rest and as far as you can on paper. I would've expected better from Kimber.

                            The cheapest (free) option might be to report the issue to Kimber and send it in so they can make sure the rear sight is centered to their factory specs.
                            My Kimber is 12 years old. It used to shoot to POA. Don't know what's changed.

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                            • #15
                              Grunt81
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 658

                              Originally posted by SamGoldstein
                              My Kimber is 12 years old. It used to shoot to POA. Don't know what's changed.
                              There's quite a few possibilities. I know what makes rifle barrels go out. I don't know how long pistol barrels at pistol velocities and pistol pressures last, but I'd imagine it's at least 10,000 rounds if not 20,000. 12 years can do that if you put a couple thousand rounds through it each year. Also, it's possible your rear sight has moved if you ever banged it hard enough on accident, but probably not likely. Improper cleaning techniques can permanently damage the barrel, maybe the crown.

                              Another likely scenario is if your recoil spring is tired, you're barrel might not be going to back to the same place after each shot. Enough wear on the spring or barrel itself can probably make what used to be tight, now wobbly.

                              I don't know, but I'd get a new barrel and see what a gunsmith could do to "accurize" it if budget allowed.

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