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  • APPALOUSA
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 5

    backpacking ruger

    I spend a great deal of time wandering about outdoors and have decided I need a revolver to take with me. Most of my time is spent hiking/ backpacking less than 10 miles a day, so weight is an issue but Im not obsessed with it. for the california/arizona area a 357 is the round that seems the most appropriate, hogs, coyotes, tweakers and the occasional cougar are the only real problems. I ve settled on ruger due to reliability and cost but am stuck between the SP100 and GP100. The SP trades 10oz for one round, which is a fair trade so long as the gun isnt miserable to shoot. I ve been able to shoot a buddies GP and loved it, but no real experience with the SP. Anyone have experience with both?

    And before you ask no I dont want a sw (nice, but pricey), glock 10mm (cant stand the grip), or anything other than a ruger
  • #2
    Sutcliffe
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2003
    • 6792

    Ruger's tend to be overbuilt

    I have an SP-101 snub that I love. The 4", adjustable sighted, version looks like a hiker's dream gun. The smaller cylinder wouldn't be an issue for me as to the amount of weight the weapon saves you over a full sized .357 mag.

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    • #3
      Cactus_Tim
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 1359

      I have the 4" SP-101.
      It's one of my favorite hiking guns. The other is my 686+.
      Have you shot an SP-101?
      If you have large hands the grip can seem kind of small.
      I put a custom wood grip on mine and a Hogue grip on my other one(.22).
      .357 is pretty stout to shoot out of it.
      The new grips helped quite a bit.
      .38 +P loads are easy enough to shoot with the stock grip.
      Buffalo Bore makes some good rounds to carry in it.

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      • #4
        APPALOUSA
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 5

        Originally posted by Sutcliffe
        I have an SP-101 snub that I love. The 4", adjustable sighted, version looks like a hiker's dream gun. The smaller cylinder wouldn't be an issue for me as to the amount of weight the weapon saves you over a full sized .357 mag.
        did you shoot 38 special out of it or 357?

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        • #5
          APPALOUSA
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2015
          • 5

          Originally posted by Cactus_Tim
          I have the 4" SP-101.
          It's one of my favorite hiking guns. The other is my 686+.
          Have you shot an SP-101?
          If you have large hands the grip can seem kind of small.
          I put a custom wood grip on mine and a Hogue grip on my other one(.22).
          .357 is pretty stout to shoot out of it.
          The new grips helped quite a bit.
          .38 +P loads are easy enough to shoot with the stock grip.
          Buffalo Bore makes some good rounds to carry in it.

          I havent, I ve looked/asked around and havent been able to locate one. Are the 357s to harsh to enjoy practicing?

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          • #6
            Oceanbob
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2010
            • 12719

            Originally posted by APPALOUSA
            I havent, I ve looked/asked around and havent been able to locate one. Are the 357s to harsh to enjoy practicing?
            Yeah, I like the SP101 2 inch stainless. It has some recoil with .357 and not my first choice for 'enjoy practicing'.

            I assume you have a Carry Permit for California, so carry whatever is the lightest for your backpack or holster.

            You won't have any issues with animals. Maybe 2 legged types, so running .38 thru a wheel gun will work and be less daunting (painful) to practice with.

            May the Bridges I burn light the way.

            Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

            Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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            • #7
              Cactus_Tim
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 1359

              I shot 100 rounds of Winchester .357 jacketed hollow point to get to know the gun after I brought it home.
              The trigger guard made the knuckle of my middle finger start getting sore after about 50-75 rounds.
              I installed a custom wood grip and it was much nicer after that.
              The rubber Hogue grip is also a good option.
              I mostly carry 158gr hard cast .38 special +P when I'm out in the wild.



              Or the 158gr lead semi wadcutter hollow point.

              Last edited by Cactus_Tim; 03-16-2015, 10:12 AM.

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              • #8
                NapalmCheese
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2011
                • 5950

                From a ballistics standpoint I wouldn't get anything shorter than the 3 inch SP-101 (or 3 inch anything in .357).

                Recoil with full house .357 from an SP-101 is stout but manageable. Personally, I feel the S&W is a better fit for my hands. My wife disagrees and prefers the Ruger.
                Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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                • #9
                  APPALOUSA
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 5

                  Originally posted by Cactus_Tim
                  I shot 100 rounds of Winchester .357 jacketed hollow point to get to know the gun after I brought it home.
                  The trigger guard made the knuckle of my middle finger start getting sore after about 50-75 rounds.
                  I installed a custom wood grip and it was much nicer after that.
                  The rubber Hogue grip is also a good option.
                  I mostly carry 158gr hard cast .38 special +P when I'm out in the wild.



                  Or the 158gr lead semi wadcutter hollow point.

                  sounds like it holds its own then. may I ask which holster you use?

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                  • #10
                    Lead Waster
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 16650

                    I would say you should give up the extra round to get the weight savings. Why? Because you will carry it 100% of the time, and you will actually need to fire it ... ??? And you will need that extra round even less time than that.

                    I mean, realistically, when do you need that other round?
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                    • #11
                      JTROKS
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 13093

                      GP100 is great for backpacking. I used a 6" GP100 when I was living in Utah. Hiked many miles with it and depending on the weather dictated which holster to use. Light jacket weather I used a shoulder holster. During the summer time it was a high ride hip holster. Winter time I had a holster rig that can be slung over shoulder. I didn't have CCW at the time so I couldn't cover the gun.

                      Things I learned using the 357 on camping is not to shoot a lot of 38Spl loads during fun shoots unless you have a cleaning kit with you.
                      The wise man said just find your place
                      In the eye of the storm
                      Seek the roses along the way
                      Just beware of the thorns...
                      K. Meine

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                      • #12
                        Mr. Beretta
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 6614

                        I've owned & shot both.

                        GP100 all the way.

                        Cost is very close to the SP101 (which is a great gun BTW).

                        The GP100 will shoot any 38 / 357mag round you put in it. For back packing I suggest a 158gr semi wad cutter 357 mag round.

                        With a little care, the GP100 with out live us both and serve you well in the woods IMHO.

                        Good Luck.

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                        • #13
                          Sutcliffe
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 6792

                          It's actually the uncommon .38 Spl version

                          Originally posted by APPALOUSA
                          did you shoot 38 special out of it or 357?
                          Even +P stuff is easy to shoot. Magnum rounds in any kind of a snub just isn't for me.

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                          • #14
                            mievil
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1788

                            3" LCRx. That's what I'm a gonna get.

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                            • #15
                              lastinline
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 2364

                              I own and shoot both. I CCW the SP101 2", as it is much more handy and easier to carry than the GP100. In a backpacking/hiking scenario you will most likely never even use the weapon, and after a few trips my money says the GP100 will be left back at home due to it's size and bulk. At least with the SP101 you have a very good option for CCW even when you are not on the trail. It is a rock solid, dependable weapon that offers good performance and durability. Loaded with the Buffalo Bore .38+P's it should be very good for your intended use.
                              One last point: Don't feel hesitant for choosing a good revolver for social purposes; they work very well for that.

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