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  • #16
    Troy35
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 56

    I only shoot my reloads and I've never had a problem (knock on wood). I don't reload to save money necessarily, it's more that I enjoy it. I take my time and I'm careful. I don't just yank on the handle like a slot machine. I consider it part of the sport that I enjoy after range time; much like cleaning guns or mounting accessories to firearms.

    If I ever feel like I'm in a hurry or not in the mindset to concentrate I step away from the bench.

    I feel like handloaders get a bad rap sometimes but if you do it correctly it is just as safe as factory ammo, with the added benefit of being able to tailor loads to what you are shooting.

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    • #17
      thospb
      Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 224

      It's a hot reload. I have several cases that look exactly like that. When it first happened I thought it was my gun, but then I fired some of the same batch of ammo through a friends new Glock and the same thing happened. In my case they were production reloads that I bought at a range. I learned my lesson.

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      • #18
        jyo
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2008
        • 5320

        Reloading ammo requires EXTREME care and paying attention for EVERY round---proud to say that in over thirty years of reloading, I've never had a problem---knock on wood…
        I stopped reloading many years ago as I was in firearms business and was privileged to be able to buy ammo at distributor cost along with free shipping. I bought vast amounts and still shoot it to this day…
        Lucky you were not seriously hurt!

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        • #19
          smle-man
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          • Jan 2007
          • 10602

          Originally posted by Carcassonne
          Never thought about that.


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          • #20
            CockedAndLocked
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 538

            Originally posted by Capybara
            You guys are deluded, there have been plenty of kabooms from both squib and double filled factory ammo. Just because many of us slowly craft our reloads one at a time, triple checking powder measures while factory ammo is cranked out by the thousands per hour at high speed by mostly unmanned operation doesn't mean our reloads are more dangerous. Double fills can happen from reloads or factory ammo. Those of you who only shoot factory ammo, don't be lulled into a false sense of security. I find plenty of defective factory ammo out of the few thousand rounds per year that I shoot.
            agreed but shooting only factory ammo gives you the best chance of success
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            • #21
              roostersgt
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1921

              Not a reloader, but is there a chance that the brass may have been reloaded too many times and was defective, or thinned?

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              • #22
                SIGscout
                Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 216

                Possible to have "bad" brass, possibly been reloaded too many times, also along with the overcharge and a worn/loose primer pocket.
                Did you check the ammo before you went to shoot it? I've found reloads with all kinds of issues and I was glad I checked them. Even at one of my past CCW test's a few guys were shooting reloads and had several failures, made me sad.
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                • #23
                  Victor Cachat
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1546

                  I've had that happen twice.
                  Not as dramatic, just a crack that allowed gas to escape and popped the trigger bar out.
                  Both were reloads someone else did.
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                  • #24
                    Happyhappycamper
                    Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 429

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                    • #25
                      xrMike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7841

                      Glad you are OK. I go with #2 also.

                      I'd never shoot somebody else's reloads, only my own. And although I've been asked numerous times by friends, I never let somebody else shoot mine either.

                      It's some kind of personal responsibility thing.

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                      • #26
                        AFTII
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 1617

                        Originally posted by CockedAndLocked
                        agreed but shooting only factory ammo gives you the best chance of success
                        I completely disagree with this statement. It demonstrates an ignorance of the reloading process. I've shot literally tens of thousands of rounds of various PPC cartridges in benchrest competition. Each and every one was a reload. (Heck, I even made my own .22 and 6mm bullets for a number of years.) There is no such thing as a "factory" .22 .100 short PPC case and no one is winning benchrest matches shooting factory 6 ppc ammo. That said, it has to be done correctly.

                        When I reload, I inspect each and every case and discard the bad ones. (Even new brass cases can have imperfections, like split necks and shoulders). I seat all the primers by hand and assure that they are all seated below the case head. I visually inspect the powder column in each case. (When I shot BR competition, I measured each load to the .02 gn (about a gradual of powder) and kept charges in vials to change the loads as conditions changed. I can tell when I seat the bullet if someone at the factory slipped a 6.5mm bullet in a .257 box (yes, it has happened) or whether the neck tension of the case has become inconsistent or too loose.

                        I work up loads for each gun / caliber combo. I usually increase powder by .5gn per load for most rifle loads (except for BR rifle loads) and .2 gn per load for pistol loads, until I find a load that suits my requirements for that particular firearm/bullet combo.

                        As someone else said above, I don't reload when I'm tired, in a hurry, or just otherwise preoccupied. I heed all the warnings that the powder companies provide about a given powder, such as "do not load below X% of max load."

                        There is nothing inherently dangerous about reloading. The danger comes when people cut corners and don't take the time necessary to assure that each round is perfect. When done correctly, THERE IS NO MORE SAFE OR ACCURATE AMMUNITION IN THE WORLD THAN RELOADED AMMO.

                        As for the OP's original question, what caused the KaBoom, I'd need more info before I'd hazard a guess. Namely, I'd like to know what components were used. I've always liked the underloaded, shaped charge, theory for KaBooms rather than an overload. Its fairly easy to see when you have put too much powder in a case. It's more difficult to visually recognize when you dropped a light charge that falls beneath a manufacturer's warning.

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                        • #27
                          Carcassonne
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 4897

                          Originally posted by roostersgt
                          Not a reloader, but is there a chance that the brass may have been reloaded too many times and was defective, or thinned?

                          Yes.

                          Brass gets weaker every time it stretches past its yield point. If the brass has bulged and been resized a few times, it can blow out under normal pressure.



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                          • #28
                            Bill Steele
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 5028

                            45 Auto is a low pressure round (when you put the proper amount of powder in the case). I have cases that have been loaded so many times you can't read the headstamp. In many tens of thousands of 45 Auto rounds reloaded, I have never had any kind of case failure. The end of life for a 45 Auto case comes when you lose it.
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                            • #29
                              RR.44
                              CGSSA Leader
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 1933

                              There is a possibility that the reloading factory could have accidently loaded a 200 gr bullet over a 230 gr load, this would drive the pressure spike through the roof, and causing that type of case rupture. Ask me how I know???
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                              • #30
                                Bill Steele
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 5028

                                Originally posted by RR.44
                                There is a possibility that the reloading factory could have accidently loaded a 200 gr bullet over a 230 gr load, this would drive the pressure spike through the roof, and causing that type of case rupture. Ask me how I know???
                                It was a friend of the OP who loaded it and loading a 200gr bullet on a 230gr load will result in less pressure. You use less powder as the bullet weight (bearing surface) goes up.
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