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  • #16
    Wrangler John
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1799

    Advice From the Well of Experience

    One upon a time I was young, at an age where I barely needed to shave, in fact my first dispenser of Shick single edge razor blades hadn't run empty. It was then that I bought a really inexpensive western style revolver in .22 WMR. It was made of pot metal, commonly known as die-cast zinc, with a steel barrel liner and steel chamber sleeves to withstand the pressure of firing. It too was painted black. That revolver lasted about as long as it took to fire a couple boxes of ammo, then the frame cracked where the hammer nose impacted below the top strap. Somewhere, in some far off land, it made it back into a melting pot maybe to return as a Keihin carburetor for a Honda moped.

    Next came an imported Luger look-alike in .22 LR. It too was made mostly of mystery metal. They call it pot metal because it's the result of tossing zinc and whatever non-ferrous scraps are scraped up off the floor into the melting pot. It's cheap, casts easily and is well suited to some non stressed parts. We aren't talking here about wrought, heat treatable aluminum, but something more appropriate for a cap pistol. That Luger never ran right and was soon returned for a refund.

    So, if you want to invest in a .22 semiauto pistol, one that will be around for as long as you will, save enough to buy something at least made mostly from steel and maybe with a aluminum billet frame, and by a manufacturer with a reputation for quality, preferably one that will have parts available should something go amiss. HINT: I owned many a Ruger .22 semiauto pistol, and never had a a single one break or wear out. At least that is my advice, and it is offered free.
    Last edited by Wrangler John; 03-02-2015, 10:03 AM.

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    • #17
      Steve_In_29
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 5682

      For that money you could (until recently) buy a nice Ruger MkIII that would last through your grandkids lifetimes. Personally I would look for a used MkII/III of whatever flavor you liked best over a pot metal pistol.

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      • #18
        Sikvenum93
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 2181

        Ok ill look into a mkIII. I'm not a fan of the looks but if it lasts...
        Wise men seldom speak. - Arcus

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        • #19
          Kappy
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2007
          • 5349

          I've shot the GSG. Not bad. It (like a lot of .22s) really likes to eat high velocity.

          If you don't mind fiddling a bit with ammo, do it. The MKII and MKIII are the guns which eat EVERYTHING.
          Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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          • #20
            Garv the innocent
            RSG Minion, Senior
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2014
            • 8981

            Ruger MK II or III > GSG
            Ruger 10 22 rifle > GSG

            Unlimited budget or 1911 practice: Why not?

            (But don't buy until after you deal with the home storage issue.)
            Originally posted by Kestryll:
            It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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            • #21
              Steve_In_29
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 5682

              Originally posted by Sikvenum93
              Ok ill look into a mkIII. I'm not a fan of the looks but if it lasts...
              Or if you are really enamored of the 1911 look, pick up a .22 kit for your 1911.

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              • #22
                JackRydden224
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2011
                • 7224

                For the money you can't beat the GSG 1911-22. I have one and it's an excellent training tool. Like any other 22 it gets dirty / dry easily and at that point it will start to malfunction. You need to clean it every 300 rounds or so to keep the gun running reliably. It's a lot easier to maintain compared to the Ruger MK-II/MK-III.

                The Ruger pistols will cost you lot more money because they are off roster.

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                • #23
                • #24
                  deac777
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 366

                  I've got the GSG 1911-22 conversion kit (slide, barrel, guide rod and recoil spring) that mates to my series 70 1911. This setup is super accurate and fun to shoot. It also maintains the same trigger pull and grip feel. I can't vouch on the long term durability of the slide as it appears to be an alloy casting and I only have about 500 rounds down the pipe.

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                  • #25
                    Mr.Caketown
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 7362

                    Hows the trigger on the GSG compared to a standard 1911? Granted all I shoot are TRPs and im not expecting miracles
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                    • #26
                      Degrelle
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 364

                      I have the GSG-922.
                      (Officer slide over full size frame). It is my favorite 22 plinker.
                      Takes bulk ammo without any problems.
                      I highly recommend GSG.


                      This is my GSG 922 with the new Beavertail grip safety with memory bump.

                      Last edited by Degrelle; 03-04-2015, 4:31 PM. Reason: New Pictures

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                      • #27
                        Degrelle
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 364

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                        • #28
                          diveRN
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1743

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                          • #29
                            fmunk
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 3896

                            Originally posted by Sikvenum93
                            Well I saw Turner's was having a sale on these. http://www.turners.com/american-tact...5-barrel-14234

                            I want one but I've never heard of this brand before but some rudimentary research seems to point to them being identical to the gsg 1911-22s just stamped under a different name. Has anyone had any experience with these? Does anyone own one? Is it very ammo picky? I want a 22 plinker just not sure if I should get this one.
                            The GSG 1911-22 might need high velocity ammo. With cheap bulk 1200 fps ammo, it will FTE/FTF every 3 or 4 rounds. High velocity ammo isn't that much more expensive than the bulk stuff. You just have to be willing to mail order it. CA LGS charge a premium. I was at a shop in Glendale recently doing a PPT and was quoted $22 for a box of CCI Mini-Mag when it is listed elsewhere online for under $10.

                            Granted, the one I am selling has been modified with CW Accessories performance enhancing kit. So the aftermarket recoil spring might be too much for weak bulk ammo. IIRC, when it was stock, it cycled Winchester M-22 just fine. The stock spring is included with sale. Been a long time since I shot it with stock spring. I will test it out this Friday.

                            FYI, this is the same gun as the Sig Sauer 1911-22. It's marketed under three brands. Only differences are the roll marks. IIRC, it is the 1911-22 on the market that has the most parts commonality with the 1911.

                            The gun in stock form is affordable, but the magazines are not. They tend to be around $38 each. The pistol comes with only 1 magazine.
                            Last edited by fmunk; 03-04-2015, 4:47 PM.


                            FS: Atlas Bipod, Custom G23 RMR slide, ETS mags, Jagerwerks, Recover G26/27, CZ Scorpion bits, etc.

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                            • #30
                              Mayor McRifle
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 7653

                              Originally posted by fmunk
                              The gun in stock form is affordable, but the magazines are not. They tend to be around $38 each. The pistol comes with only 1 magazine.
                              The SIG Sauer magazines are $26 from SIG. If you buy four (or otherwise spend over $100), you get free shipping.

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