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  • #76
    Whatthepho?
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 325

    What range was the ammo from?

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    • #77
      bug_eyedmonster
      • Oct 2007
      • 3639

      Originally posted by TurboChrisB
      So if you're doing a competition, or a drill that involves rapid fire...how is the user supposed to stop when a squib happens. Based on the fact that you can't always avoid firing after a squib....I'd say the range that made/sold the defective ammo is more than 50% at fault here......
      I've been mid stage shooting USPSA with a 1911 and caught a squib. Stopped, told them that I was done with the stage, cleared the gun, and off I went for repair. There should be a GIANT alarm in your head when you pull the trigger and something feels different. I can understand if you happen to be shooting someone else's gun or something, but that's usually not the case when you are shooting in some form of competition.

      Sometimes a squib will leave unspent powder in the area of the chamber. OP, you can remove your mag and peek inside from the magwell to see if there is an unusual amount of it hanging out.

      Jerry
      The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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      • #78
        onelonehorseman
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 4888

        Originally posted by Milsurpguy2000
        Click no boom just a empty case ? Sounds like a squib load.
        ^ this
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        • #79
          AGFNTB
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 804

          I agree that it would be nice to know what range the ammo came from so that others can keep an eye on any ammo they may have (or will) buy from the same place.

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          • #80
            -R-
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 356

            Originally posted by Chaos47


            Even in a competition is it worth the risk of damaging your firearm and more importantly yourself (and others)?
            That guy is a special kind of idiot.
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            • #81
              himurax13
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 3895

              Well some people don't realize that the magazine blowing out is a sign that your gun is f'ed ...
              Originally posted by Bumslie
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              • #82
                jpx0123
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1047

                my friend had an issue with reloads at the range too. had a couple of squibs too. we always check the bore and found it. we got lucky tho, the squib got stuck at a point in the barrel that the new round would not seat fully into the breach. but now he counts all his shots on the target and uses a plastic coated cable to run through the barrel to make sure there isn't something stuck in there.

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                • #83
                  Ronin2
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 5563

                  Originally posted by Sky.Hawk
                  reloads - they're cheaper, until they're not.

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                  • #84
                    calif 15-22
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 6023

                    Was I they only who clicked the link to the picture and expect to see a Glock

                    Glad to hear you are OK OP. A long shot but maybe contact Springfield to see if they would want the gun back and maybe give you some sort of partial credit towards a new one. I would bet some manufacturers would want to see examples of these types of failures for their R&D / Quality Teams to evaluate.

                    Good luck . . .


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                    • #85
                      Voo
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1702

                      Originally posted by TurboChrisB
                      So if you're doing a competition, or a drill that involves rapid fire...how is the user supposed to stop when a squib happens. Based on the fact that you can't always avoid firing after a squib....I'd say the range that made/sold the defective ammo is more than 50% at fault here......
                      In competition if you think your gun has squibbed, YOU STOP, on the spot, immediately. Do not move forward, do not tap, rack bang. You show clear (if possible) and take the gun to a safe area for inspection. Points are irrelevant as it's up to you to make sure your safe, first and foremost. I mean, it's just a competition. On top of self regulation, if the Range Officer is worth a damn, they'll also indicate for you to immediately stop shooting.

                      Same with drills. What drill is so important that you can't stop and check?

                      For me, as I was reading the OP's comments, it seems a lot of red flags were ignored..
                      1) shooting someone else's reloads
                      2) pops instead of BOOMS
                      3) weak ejection/failure to eject

                      If there was a problem with the ammo, which it certainly seemed like, then the shooter would have legitimate reason to ask for a refund. But if you don't recognize certain warnings and proceed to shoot the ammo, then it becomes much more difficult to determine who's responsible for the gun blowing up.
                      Aloha snackbar!

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                      • #86
                        TheExiled
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 2933

                        I happened in to LAX range earlier this week while waiting to get someone from the airport, had my G20 but no plinking ammo. No big, bought 250 rounds of .40sw from the range as Ive heard that LAX reloads are G2G. I swear no two rounds of the 250 had the same recoil impulse or muzzle flash. I will not be using those again.

                        Good luck OP, I would not be surprised if you waived any liability when you bought the store's reloads
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                        • #87
                          tacticalcity
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 10929

                          Well ya said the magic words associated with 99.99999999999999% of Kabooms. ..."reloads".

                          Bad ammo will get ya every time.

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                          • #88
                            NoNOS67
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2161

                            Continued in new thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1041869

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