Exploding Handgun

[NoNOS67]

Continued in new thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1041869

[tacticalcity]

Well ya said the magic words associated with 99.99999999999999% of Kabooms. ..."reloads".

Bad ammo will get ya every time.

[TheExiled]

I happened in to LAX range earlier this week while waiting to get someone from the airport, had my G20 but no plinking ammo. No big, bought 250 rounds of .40sw from the range as Ive heard that LAX reloads are G2G. I swear no two rounds of the 250 had the same recoil impulse or muzzle flash. I will not be using those again.

Good luck OP, I would not be surprised if you waived any liability when you bought the store's reloads

[Voo]

So if you're doing a competition, or a drill that involves rapid fire...how is the user supposed to stop when a squib happens. Based on the fact that you can't always avoid firing after a squib....I'd say the range that made/sold the defective ammo is more than 50% at fault here......

In competition if you think your gun has squibbed, YOU STOP, on the spot, immediately. Do not move forward, do not tap, rack bang. You show clear (if possible) and take the gun to a safe area for inspection. Points are irrelevant as it's up to you to make sure your safe, first and foremost. I mean, it's just a competition. On top of self regulation, if the Range Officer is worth a damn, they'll also indicate for you to immediately stop shooting.

Same with drills. What drill is so important that you can't stop and check?

For me, as I was reading the OP's comments, it seems a lot of red flags were ignored..
1) shooting someone else's reloads
2) pops instead of BOOMS
3) weak ejection/failure to eject

If there was a problem with the ammo, which it certainly seemed like, then the shooter would have legitimate reason to ask for a refund. But if you don't recognize certain warnings and proceed to shoot the ammo, then it becomes much more difficult to determine who's responsible for the gun blowing up.

[calif 15-22]

Was I they only who clicked the link to the picture and expect to see a Glock

Glad to hear you are OK OP. A long shot but maybe contact Springfield to see if they would want the gun back and maybe give you some sort of partial credit towards a new one. I would bet some manufacturers would want to see examples of these types of failures for their R&D / Quality Teams to evaluate.

Good luck . . .

[Ronin2]

reloads - they're cheaper, until they're not.

[jpx0123]

my friend had an issue with reloads at the range too. had a couple of squibs too. we always check the bore and found it. we got lucky tho, the squib got stuck at a point in the barrel that the new round would not seat fully into the breach. but now he counts all his shots on the target and uses a plastic coated cable to run through the barrel to make sure there isn't something stuck in there.

[himurax13]

Well some people don't realize that the magazine blowing out is a sign that your gun is f'ed ...

[-R-]

Even in a competition is it worth the risk of damaging your firearm and more importantly yourself (and others)?

That guy is a special kind of idiot.

[AGFNTB]

I agree that it would be nice to know what range the ammo came from so that others can keep an eye on any ammo they may have (or will) buy from the same place.

[onelonehorseman]

Click no boom just a empty case ? Sounds like a squib load.

^ this

[bug_eyedmonster]

So if you're doing a competition, or a drill that involves rapid fire...how is the user supposed to stop when a squib happens. Based on the fact that you can't always avoid firing after a squib....I'd say the range that made/sold the defective ammo is more than 50% at fault here......

I've been mid stage shooting USPSA with a 1911 and caught a squib. Stopped, told them that I was done with the stage, cleared the gun, and off I went for repair. There should be a GIANT alarm in your head when you pull the trigger and something feels different. I can understand if you happen to be shooting someone else's gun or something, but that's usually not the case when you are shooting in some form of competition.

Sometimes a squib will leave unspent powder in the area of the chamber. OP, you can remove your mag and peek inside from the magwell to see if there is an unusual amount of it hanging out.

Jerry

[Whatthepho?]

What range was the ammo from?

[elsupermanny14]

Could you you please let me know which range provided you the ammunition? It would not dissuade me from using that range, but it would be nice to let us know who sells bad ammo. Think of it as a public safety announcement. Whether it was user error or not, I'm not here to judge. The fact of the matter is that bad ammo was the initial culprit.

When I first started shooting I used reloads a lot. Then I bought a bag of 38 Special Surefire ammo from a gun show and had three squibs in the first 100 rounds. Surefire did right by me and gave me a full refund plus a few extra bucks to cover my troubles. It was very nice of them.

I also used 38 Special LAX Range reloads that came in the 1000 round plastic cans. That ammo was not very good either. A LOT of the casings were cracked when I ejected them and about 15 rounds had warped casings that would even fit in the cylinder of my Vaquero because they were warped.

Very curious on who provided those to you. I stopped buying range reloads after those experiences and then I learned you can buy new ammo online for cheaper than what ranges in LA charge for their reloads.

I buy a lot of my Ammo at MunireUSA if your curious. They are awesome because they ship to Los Angeles.

[PseudoTsuga]

Wow Springfield they built a fine gun. Glad you came away without a scratch.

My take too.
Another reason to love my "service" xd .45.