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  • cajay
    Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 204

    The VP9 in market place is still available for only $1200 if anyone wants to grab it, LOL

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    • brian5271
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 637

      Simple economic fact; The seller does not set the value, only buyer can do that.

      If you don't think it is worth it, don't buy it.
      If I had to describe myself in one word it would be "bad at following directions"

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      • pc_load_letter
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2520

        Seven pages ?!?!

        Wow, that is pretty funny.

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        • Champagne-N-Beer
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 519

          Hahha, I am actually in the same boat - some don't see eye-to-eye on this subject - whoopity-do.

          It's no big deal, we're right, you're wrong - I am sure you have been wrong plenty of other times in your life and this likely won't be the last

          Hehhe - all kidding aside - we all don't agree, no big whoop - let's go shoot some paper and get back to cussing out the anti's

          Y'all have a blessed day.

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          • tacticalcity
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Aug 2006
            • 10929

            It's funny how much communist crap is buried in the heads of otherwise rational thinkers. Gotta blame our school system.

            We live in a free market society...or at least we should strive to. Which means supply and demand set the price. If somebody is a shrewd investor, good for them. Don't get upset with them because you lacked either the foresight or resources to do the same. That's just silly...and un-American.

            Just sayin'. Getting a little "too Kalifornia" with some of these comments buddies.

            If you want to be upset with somebody, be upset with the legislators that created the stupid roster. It is their fault this situation exists in the first place.

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            • champu
              CGN Contributor
              • Nov 2013
              • 1981

              I've only tried to make two points in this thread:

              1) People that are turning over SSE guns for a few bucks aren't contributing to the problem that is the existence of the roster by bringing more handguns into the state. And this is not a revenue stream that is making anyone go turncoat.

              2) Just because supply and demand allows an equilibrium price to be reached after the government does something that jacks up one curve or the other doesn't make it a free market. The government doing the thing that jacks up the supply curve makes it not a free market before anyone even lists the first firearm.

              I officially give up.

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              • Timbob55
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 1046

                Originally posted by Steve1968LS2
                Oh my God.. Not this again

                I'm shocked at how many people hate or don't understand Capitalism and the free market
                ^^^ THIS X ^^^

                If you feel the price is too high don't buy it. People stop buying and prices come down. People start buying and prices go up.
                Tim Harris
                CWO3 USCG (ret)

                "Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons."
                Gen. Douglas MacArthur


                Requiro Pax Sed Praeparo Nam Bellum

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                • magnusson
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 726

                  Originally posted by Wallabing
                  Welcome to Californistan and the ISIS market. Dont let it bite you on the ***.
                  FIFY

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                  • CockedAndLocked
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 538

                    this profiteer stuff is seriously unacceptable....do people have no shame?

                    btw I have an FDE HK 45 BNIB for $2750 cash firm if anyone is interested....
                    NRA Lifetime Member

                    http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/
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                    • ArcherDog
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 808

                      Originally posted by champu
                      I've only tried to make two points in this thread:

                      1) People that are turning over SSE guns for a few bucks aren't contributing to the problem that is the existence of the roster by bringing more handguns into the state. And this is not a revenue stream that is making anyone go turncoat.

                      2) Just because supply and demand allows an equilibrium price to be reached after the government does something that jacks up one curve or the other doesn't make it a free market. The government doing the thing that jacks up the supply curve makes it not a free market before anyone even lists the first firearm.

                      I officially give up.
                      You still haven't provided a reasonable solution. What is fair in the example I gave, where someone spends a couple thousand dollars to acquire a gun worth a few hundred in a free state. Do you still consider it gouging if I'm trying to recover money I spent?
                      Ian Lindsay
                      Tracy, CA

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                      • LittleChickie
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 54

                        Just to be clear: SSE = Single Shot Exemption. Finally figured that out. So what the hey is VP9 and PPQ etc.??
                        This whole stupid CA list thing is making people argumentative and crazy. Does anyone shoot the dang things anymore or have we all gone as nutty as the Bitcoin crowd?

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                        • Steve_In_29
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 5682

                          Originally posted by LittleChickie
                          Just to be clear: SSE = Single Shot Exemption. Finally figured that out. So what the hey is VP9 and PPQ etc.??
                          This whole stupid CA list thing is making people argumentative and crazy. Does anyone shoot the dang things anymore or have we all gone as nutty as the Bitcoin crowd?
                          VP9 and PPQ are models of pistols.

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                          • fullmd
                            Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 294

                            i originally listed my gun for trade as a way to get some thing i wanted. i got a few pms asking about price so i posted a price. if your interested great if not oh well there maybe some one who is

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                            • Richochet
                              In Memoriam
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 2023

                              Valtro and the Free Market

                              Originally posted by riderr
                              It's a free market with limited supply and growing demand. There is nothing abnormal about it.
                              Exactamundo as the Fonz always said in Happy Days

                              In an unregulated market where willing buyers and sellers meet i.e. CalGuns for example, the price realized determines the monetary value of a gun at that moment. The seller is free to ask whatever he thinks the market will bear.
                              The market place of buyers is more complex. Rising expectations, the legal environment, limited availability, desirability, prestige objects are only a few of the factors. The Valtro 1911's accurized by John Jardine have a reputation for exceptional accuracy and superb gun smithing.

                              If the Seller's price exceeds the Market's expectations, the pistol will remain unsold, or a price negotiation may take place as the price realigns with the realities of the market.

                              A final note, to the best of this writer's knowledge, the highest known price paid for a Valtro customized by Jardine is $15,000.
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                              • Richochet
                                In Memoriam
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 2023

                                Valtro and the Free Market

                                Duplicate post, sorry.
                                Last edited by Richochet; 02-26-2015, 1:31 PM.
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