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  • .454
    Banned
    • Jul 2008
    • 3839

    My Bear Necessities

    Ruger SuperRedhawk Alaskan .454Casull
    Handloads: 300 grain cast bullets on top of 29 grain Win 296



    Tested yesterday on bowling pins in the desert, near Niland.

    First impression: could easily qualify as a piece of hand held heavy artillery if there ever was one.

    Results: painful but fun. Lots and lots of fun. Remarkably accurate for a 2 1/2" snubby. Loud as...well, let's just say I never heard or shot anything more louder in my life with the exception of the naval cannons on the ship I served. A Desert Eagle in .50AE sounds like a whiny baby by comparison.

    Recommended? Hell yeah. Even if you don't plan to go zombies or bear hunting, you can show it to your liberal friends. Makes them empty their bowels instantly.
    Last edited by .454; 10-27-2008, 7:12 PM.
  • #2
    OCArmory
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1321

    That is one awesome gun. I can't imaging that round in a snubbie. Have you seen how big a fireball it gives off at night.
    Mike

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    • #3
      .454
      Banned
      • Jul 2008
      • 3839

      Originally posted by OCArmory
      That is one awesome gun. I can't imaging that round in a snubbie. Have you seen how big a fireball it gives off at night.
      Mike
      Yup. It belches a gigantic fireball and the shock wave makes the target flutter like the wind blows inside the shooting range. Next time I will go to Insight in Artesia I plan to take a video camera with me and post a short clip on Youtube.

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      • #4
        RedDawn
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2007
        • 2234

        Originally posted by OCArmory
        Have you seen how big a fireball it gives off at night.
        Mike
        That would be a sight to see.
        sigpic
        "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

        -- Thomas Jefferson, 1764
        *Excerpts from "On Crimes and Punishment" by Cesare Beccaria

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        • #5
          .454
          Banned
          • Jul 2008
          • 3839

          Originally posted by RedDawn
          That would be a sight to see.

          I will post the video next week. I promised my kid I'll let him shoot it and he is good with the camera.

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          • #6
            .454
            Banned
            • Jul 2008
            • 3839

            Oops. I believe I posted this in the wrong part of the forum. Mods please move to Handguns Gallery

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            • #7
              OCArmory
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 1321

              It will definitely be a range clearer.

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              • #8
                Doheny
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2008
                • 13820

                What are the ballistics on those rounds? For bear, the handgun would be a last ditch effort, after a rifle, I assume?
                Sent from Free America

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                • #9
                  Tumerboy
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 397

                  Beautiful!

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                  • #10
                    rayra
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1747

                    neat, in an anime sorta way.
                    I'd prefer a similar bullet in a 4" .44mag Redhawk. Better for follow-up shots. And if you don't have a chance for those, and it's contact-range, don't know / think the energy difference would really matter. Not when you are screwing it in his ear / neck / belly before you fire it dry.

                    /but that's a fruitless argument to get into. Enjoy your hand-cannon.
                    Last edited by rayra; 10-27-2008, 11:05 PM.

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                    • #11
                      JTROKS
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 13093

                      Here are mine.


                      I am planning to turn the Redhawk 44 mag into a 3.5" packer, but after firing it with 300 grain hardcast at some fast stepping velocity, I may just chop it to 5" first. Although I'm in no hurry to chop it up.
                      The wise man said just find your place
                      In the eye of the storm
                      Seek the roses along the way
                      Just beware of the thorns...
                      K. Meine

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                      • #12
                        Sutcliffe
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6792

                        I'd be interested in your velocites as well

                        My thoughts on bear defense are they biggest, heaviest hard cast bullet you can get to 1100 fps. Any more velocity won't penetrate all that much more and the additional recoil/blast is detrimental to controlling your gun and quick followup shots.
                        It takes a lot of skill/practice/concentration to shoot the handcannons. Something I don't have.

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                        • #13
                          .454
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3839

                          Originally posted by Doheny
                          What are the ballistics on those rounds?
                          Depends on the bullet weight and powder charge. The lead-free hunting rounds I made for my Puma 92 .454 carbine are 250 grain bullets leaving the 16" barrel at 2100 fps, that means a 2000+ ft/lb. muzzle energy. Fired from the Alaskan snubby, they should be about 15% less faster, which is still impressive.
                          For comparison: a hot loaded .45 ACP +P round. Bullet leaves the barrel at 930 fps and have a muzzle energy of 450 ft/lb.

                          The regular lead rounds I load for fun and home defense are 300 grain bullets going just as fast. There are loads I don't even want to try that use even heavier bullets, 325 grain and 395 grain respectively.

                          As for your second question, Ruger designed this gun specifically for defensive purposes when hunting or fishing in bear country.

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                          • #14
                            .454
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3839

                            Originally posted by JTROKS

                            I am planning to turn the Redhawk 44 mag into a 3.5" packer, but after firing it with 300 grain hardcast at some fast stepping velocity, I may just chop it to 5" first. Although I'm in no hurry to chop it up.

                            Impressive, congratulations for your heavy artillery collection. Don't chop the SRH, just buy an Alaskan.

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                            • #15
                              rayra
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 1747

                              Originally posted by EXTURNERSEMP
                              ...As for your second question, Ruger designed this gun specifically for defensive purposes when hunting or fishing in bear country.
                              lol, that's the cover story, anyway. I think it was a game of oneupsmanship. .50AE, .454, 'how do we get in on this marketing action?'

                              .44mag (and lesser rounds) have been doing the job for a lot of years. Don't think I've ever read a bear attack story where .44mag wasn't enough.
                              But hey, 'more is better' seems to rule most folks' thought patterns.

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