Driving through NV Question

[Quiet]

Loaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is no-go.

Well that clears it up! I wonder what the thinking process was on this (in bold)?

Has to do with NV case laws regarding what is "concealed upon the person".

NV case laws determined that a firearm in a portable container on or near the body is considered conceal carry.

Portable container being a bag, pack, purse, case, or similar container that can be carried by a person.
A locked box that can be carried by a person meets what is a portable container.

Which means per NV case laws, a handgun in a locked box that can be carried by a person requires a valid carry permit.

The NV AG Office further clarified this by determining that, since Federal laws [18 USC 926A] allows for the legal transportation of an unloaded firearm in a locked container, an unloaded handgun in a locked container would be an exempt condition from NV conceal carry laws.

Which means...
Unloaded handgun in portable locked container = NV legal due to Federal laws.
Loaded handgun in portable container = NV illegal conceal carry, unless the possessor has a valid carry permit.

[baggss]

Steer clear of Vegas from what I've read earlier

The NV legislature changed the laws regarding Vegas and Clark County a few years ago. They are now in line with the rest of the state. Some casinos may have their own policy regarding firearms, especially if you plan to OC. Use good judgement. Otherwise, Vegas still has to comply with state law.

OC is legal on the strip. You may get some attention, but if that's about it if you are doing nothing illegal/wrong. That being said, can does not always equal should.

[Notpc]

Has to do with NV case laws regarding what is "concealed upon the person".

NV case laws determined that a firearm in a portable container on or near the body is considered conceal carry.

Portable container being a bag, pack, purse, case, or similar container that can be carried by a person.
A locked box that can be carried by a person meets what is a portable container.

Which means per NV case laws, a handgun in a locked box that can be carried by a person requires a valid carry permit.

The NV AG Office further clarified this by determining that, since Federal laws [18 USC 926A] allows for the legal transportation of an unloaded firearm in a locked container, an unloaded handgun in a locked container would be an exempt condition from NV conceal carry laws.

Which means...
Unloaded handgun in portable locked container = NV legal due to Federal laws.
Loaded handgun in portable container = NV illegal conceal carry, unless the possessor has a valid carry permit.

Thank you, you took more time then I deserve explaining this to me. Like I wrote earlier, I am in the process of getting my AZ CCW, so I don't need to worry about the border crossing anymore.

[rdtompki]

Appears that a locked glove box or center console would be ok in NV. I just don't like loading/unloading in a car if I can help it.

[edgerly779]

I am going thru nv on way to az and all firearms will be unloaded in locked containers per fed law.

[rdtompki]

I am goint thru nv on way to az and allfirearms will be unloaded in locked containers per fed law.

If this were universally the case then states wouldn't be able to have contrary law(s). I believe the federal law in this area is intended to allow unloaded transportation (trunk or locked container) of handguns in certain areas where otherwise prohibited by local law.

States, Oregon for example, do appear to allow transportation of loaded handguns when properly secured and the excellent explanation of NV law appears to allow transport of a loaded handgun in a locked container that is not portable. Glove , box and center console would appear, if locked, to satisfy ths requirement

Probably wasn't worth asking since I'm moving to Idaho and an Enhanced CCW works for OR and NV. I'll be giving up my ability to carry in CA, but I won't be coming back here much.

[Big Jake]

If this were universally the case then states wouldn't be able to have contrary law(s). I believe the federal law in this area is intended to allow unloaded transportation (trunk or locked container) of handguns in certain areas where otherwise prohibited by local law.

States, Oregon for example, do appear to allow transportation of loaded handguns when properly secured and the excellent explanation of NV law appears to allow transport of a loaded handgun in a locked container that is not portable. Glove , box and center console would appear, if locked, to satisfy ths requirement

Probably wasn't worth asking since I'm moving to Idaho and an Enhanced CCW works for OR and NV. I'll be giving up my ability to carry in CA, but I won't be coming back here much.

Incorrect. Oregon does not recognize any other states CCW. They are may issue for residents of bordering states so if you want to carry concealed in Oregon you will need to get an Oregon CCW from a county that is willing to issue to non-reidents.

[rdtompki]

Loaded or unloaded in the vehicle's glove or utility compartment is good-to-go.

Loaded or unloaded in a locked box attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Unloaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Loaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is no-go.

This is the way the law indeed reads. There probably should be a forum address travel issues aside from CCW so the two questions don't get confused. I believe, but would not swear to it, that the OR situation is similar based on looking at several websites. True, you need a recognized CCW to conceal carry in OR, but locked in a contain I believe a loaded handgun is allowed (not a rifle); not sure about attached or separate, but I believe it can't be within reach or some such.