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  • #31
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30241

    Originally posted by Ammunition1
    Non lethal is an excellent alternative when looking to defend yourself. Not every person is comfortable with causing great bodily harm to another person, but there is an instinctual feeling of self-preservation.

    We understand this feeling and as such, we've chosen to carry multiple Byrna products in our store. Byrna is a company that makes products for one to protect themselves in whichever way they see fit.

    We carry:

    Byrna Kinetic Launcher - A non-lethal projectile launcher. This C02 powered pistol is the ultimate alternative to a firearm. No permit need to purchase or to carry. Multiple options of projectiles to choose from; eco-kinetic target/training rounds, kinetic defense rounds for personal defense, pepper ball rounds made to act like pepper spray, and tear gas projectiles available as well. Kits available at different power thresholds, multiple accessories available, all at different price points. Available in store.

    Less Lethal Kinetic 12G - A primer only kinetic slug-like kinetic projectile inside of a 12 gauge shotgun shell. Without gunpowder this is 16 times quieter making it safe to fire without ear protection with the added benefit of no perceived recoil. Available in store and online.
    Impact launchers are considered less lethal and are not considered non-lethal.

    Under CA laws...

    The impact launcher is considered an "imitation firearm" [PC 16700(a)] and all "imitation firearm" laws apply to it [PC 20150-20180].

    The minimum age to legally acquire and posses it in CA is 18. [PC 19910-19915]

    It is illegal to openly carry or display it in public places. [PC 20170]
    It is illegal to brandish it in public. [PC 417.4]

    It is legal to conceal carry it in non-prohibited areas of public places. [PC 20175(a)]
    ^prohibited areas = schools [PC 626.10(a)], Gov buildings [PC 171b(a)(6)], etc.
    ~No permit/license is required to legally conceal carry it in CA.

    Unless you are exempt person; it is illegal for you to acquire, possess, or use pepper ball ammo in CA. [PC 22810(e)(1)]

    There are no CA laws prohibiting the importing, making, transfer, possession or use of impact projectiles.
    But, the use of the impact projectiles against a human is considered assault with a deadly weapon. [PC 245(a)(1)]
    ^The standard to determine if use was justified self-defense would be the same as when using any other deadly weapon (knife, firearm, etc).

    It is illegal for non-exempt persons to import, make, advertise for sale, transfer, or possess pepperball rounds in CA. [PC 22810(e)(1) and 22900]
    ^Exempt persons = Gov/Mil/LE agencies, LEOs, authorized Gov/Mil personnel for use while on-duty and in the performance of their duties, and BSIS licensed security while uniformed, on-duty, and in the performance of their duties.
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    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    • #32
      P5Ret
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2010
      • 6347

      Originally posted by Ammunition1

      Bad Guy Repellent - A mix of pepper spray and tear gas, 5.4M Scoville rating, ultraviolet chemicals, and available in a large size with a carry clip or a smaller two pack, both available at the same price. Available in store.
      Define large size.

      Anything more than a 2.5 ounce spray can is not lawful for possession or sales to most people.


      22810.
      (e) (1) No person shall purchase, possess, or use any tear gas weapon that expels a projectile, or that expels the tear gas by any method other than an aerosol spray, or that contains more than 2.5 ounces net weight of aerosol spray.

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      • #33
        JohnCCW
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1307

        If a perp is advancing on me with a knife, I consider that highly lethal.
        sigpicDon't ask how many guns I own, I lost count.
        Rick Perry, Ted Cruz Trump for President 2016, because Hillary is NOT an option.

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