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  • #31
    HighLander51
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 5144

    Originally posted by Librarian
    I very strongly agree with you both.

    But it seems a bit like saying "I'd like to play golf" and getting back "Well, we don't have golf courses around here, but we have a great softball league."

    Ahead of the curve, I guess.
    Really? Just an excuse not to start. Jump in. Remember the matches are not there for you, you are them for them. A hand full of shooters drag out all the sticks, stands, targets, steel, poppers, droppers, drop turners, swingers, Texas Stars, props, walls, set it all up, sign you up, run the match, and tear it all down at the end of day, long after you leave, and post the scores to boot. You will never know unless you participate... So if you want to learn how to shoot really quickly, and accurately, under stress, by yourself, not with a trainer coaching you, then start in. Otherwise you will be stuck shooting at a static target from a bench, all that shows you is that the gun functions.

    I absolutely guarantee that after your very first match, you will be like "WTF just happened?" I should have jumped in years ago.... And when you smoke the CCW qualification course, the Deputies will say "Uh, do you shoot competition?" And you answer, "Yea, just a couple of times...."

    Note: There is a down side, you give up golf, domestic chores, hanging out with the wife/kids on weekends, spend tons of money on gun stuff and reloading stuff, BECAUSE you are at a competition match every Saturday and Sunday. Yes, it does happen. And, then, the dark side, 3 GUN! A competition match that runs rifle, shotgun and pistol. Don't even think about it.
    Last edited by HighLander51; 03-19-2014, 6:09 PM.

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    • #32
      Daisy'sDad
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 589

      Originally posted by HighLander51
      I absolutely guarantee that after your very first match, you will be like "WTF just happened?" I should have jumped in years ago.... And when you smoke the CCW qualification course, the Deputies will say "Uh, do you shoot competition?" And you answer, "Yea, just a couple of times...."

      Note: And, then, the dark side, 3 GUN! A competition match that runs rifle, shotgun and pistol. Don't even think about it.
      Perish the thought(s). I have every right to own firearms and not know how to handle them in a stressful situation.
      Certified Glock Armorer/NRA Certified Pistol Instructor and RSO

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      • #33
        rogervzv
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2087

        Originally posted by Librarian
        Sure.

        Now do it with a .32 ACP Tomcat.
        Would be difficult, in my experience. Thoughts? I am going to a CCW training class this weekend and decided not to bring the Tomcat for fear of not qualifying.
        Come and Take It!
        I'm the only hell my momma ever raised ...

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        • #34
          rogervzv
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2087

          Originally posted by HighLander51
          ......
          I absolutely guarantee that after your very first match, you will be like "WTF just happened?" I should have jumped in years ago.... And when you smoke the CCW qualification course, the Deputies will say "Uh, do you shoot competition?" And you answer, "Yea, just a couple of times...."

          Note: There is a down side, you give up golf, domestic chores, hanging out with the wife/kids on weekends, spend tons of money on gun stuff and reloading stuff, BECAUSE you are at a competition match every Saturday and Sunday. Yes, it does happen. And, then, the dark side, 3 GUN! A competition match that runs rifle, shotgun and pistol. Don't even think about it.
          Good post. I will think on this.
          Come and Take It!
          I'm the only hell my momma ever raised ...

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          • #35
            pointerman
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 369

            Originally posted by p1choco
            Looking at the different course of fire, I better start practicing reloads with my 5 shot revolver. I would need to reload twice multiple times to qual.
            I have a 5 shot revolver on my license. It's not that hard; even with the reload. I even had time to cock the hammer and shoot in single action mode.

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            • #36
              pointerman
              Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 369

              BTW, with a 5 shot revolver they will adjust the course of fire to 10 rounds rather than 12.

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              • #37
                HighLander51
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 5144

                Originally posted by rogervzv
                Would be difficult, in my experience. Thoughts? I am going to a CCW training class this weekend and decided not to bring the Tomcat for fear of not qualifying.
                It's no worries, my kid and I are going to do a video running that qualification after this Sundays USPSA match. He is going to run a S&W 640 and I'm running a Kahr CW9. A 14" x 16" area is a big target. We will do it from concealment, but the Sheriff will let you go from the low ready or holding on target.

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                • #38
                  Lugiahua
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1576

                  Just think about that, 14x16 is larger than the biggest ceramic plates available on the market. It's basically anywhere on the torso counts.

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                  • #39
                    Hilbilly
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 25

                    OP, you have a great range close by in Lincoln for getting practice with your weapons. I did my test out there with Mark Hixson (not a plug for him, just a good guy).
                    For indoor practice, I'd really recommend the Laserlyte cartridges for whatever caliber you shoot. They are a big step up from dry firing. You can get instant feedback on shot placement, save a bunch of money on rounds down range and you can have a lot of fun at the same time.
                    Best,

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                    • #40
                      p1choco
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 583

                      Originally posted by pointerman
                      BTW, with a 5 shot revolver they will adjust the course of fire to 10 rounds rather than 12.
                      I'd love the challenge and practice for the 12 rd strings just in case. But that's nice to know.

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                      • #41
                        HighLander51
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 5144

                        Originally posted by HighLander51
                        12 rounds with a reload at
                        o 3yds - 15sec
                        o 7yds - 30sec
                        o 15yds - 45sec
                        • To pass you must achieve 85% of your shots (31 out of 36) in the large center thoracic cavity hit zone (14"x16")
                        El Dorado County Qualification. We were running late so I forgot my Kahr and Whitey forgot is his j frame, so I am running a G17 concealed from appendix, no holster, mags in pocket, Whitey is running a G21 OWB concealed with mag pouches. In all cases there is more than ample time. We'll give a try another time when we remember to bring our little guns.

                        Whiteys run 5.94, 9.40, 10.31 and 1 mike.



                        My run 7.72, 9.64, 11.51, clean

                        Last edited by HighLander51; 03-23-2014, 4:38 PM.

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                        • #42
                          ElDub1950
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 5688

                          Originally posted by HighLander51
                          How is that even possible? The target is as big as your garage door... And they start from the low ready, or holding on target, not even from concealment. Did he put a cap in himself, or the RO?
                          Well, maybe a small garage door!

                          But the qual was from concealment in all cases.

                          No one got capped, thank goodness, but during group practice I made sure I was as far away as possible.

                          The LFI instructors we on top of it. They made sure no one was ever close to being a hazard.

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                          • #43
                            ElDub1950
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 5688

                            Originally posted by HighLander51
                            El Dorado County Qualification. We were running late so I forgot my Kahr and Whitey forgot is his j frame, so I am running a G17 concealed from appendix, no holster, mags in pocket, Whitey is running a G21 OWB concealed with mag pouches. In all cases there is more than ample time. We'll give a try another time when we remember to bring our little guns.

                            Whiteys run 5.94, 9.40, 10.31 and 1 mike.



                            My run 7.72, 9.64, 11.51, clean

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3_v...ature=youtu.be
                            Glad you showed this. It should relieve some peoples' concerns.

                            And .. Whew! you passed ..

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                            • #44
                              HighLander51
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 5144

                              Originally posted by ElDub1950
                              Well, maybe a small garage door!

                              But the qual was from concealment in all cases.

                              No one got capped, thank goodness, but during group practice I made sure I was as far away as possible.
                              I would be as far away as possible also, in the bathroom, until it would be time to qual.

                              Glad you showed this. It should relieve some peoples' concerns. And .. Whew! you passed .

                              But it doesn't matter, I am in San Bernardino. Yes, the whole point was to show the guys that it is a pretty easy qual, that's all.

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                              • #45
                                sdsguy87
                                Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 160

                                I went to the range to practice and I was told 15 rounds at 7 and 5 yards two handed, 10 rounds at 3 yards one handed 5 rounds with left and 5 with right

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