HR218 if that makes a difference.
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Different ammo in a CCW firearm a problem?
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Regarding POST 16,
There are big differences between HR218, aka LEOSA, permits and the current/regular permits.
The retired California LEO permits are also different from both.
This thread is concerning the regular CCW permits being issued. If somebody has any concerns regarding the LEOSA or California retired LE permits, I think a separate thread should be started, probably in the LEO forum area, imho.
Last edited by L-2; 05-28-2025, 5:20 PM.(former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)Comment
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I just re-qualified for my San Bernardino County CCW last April with my .357 Ruger LCR. Range officer didn't even look at my caliber (I was using .38). He just verified that I had factory ammo. My permit lists my LCR as .357, it doesn't say that I qualified with .38. I have absolutely no qualms carrying it with .38 +p ammunition or .357 (while camping).
I think some of these posts areand fear mongering. A good defensive shoot, is a good defensive shoot if the gun used is listed on your permit (serial number matches). Now, if you made a barrel/caliber change and doesn't match your permit, that is different. Say a Glock 21 (45acp) that you qualified with and you get into an altercation with a 10mm conversion barrel you dropped into it, well........................
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Since some of this is opinion, as long as the reasonable person standard is met on your use of lethal force, I suggest it will not matter what you use. Using a aluminum bat vs a wooden one to stop someone doesn't create greater liability, as long as the use is reasonable.
Suggesting even changing out a barrel somehow translates to greater liability, is silly in my opinion. Keep in mind, if a IA says absolutely NO CHANGES, that is one thing.
Much of the concern over this and the use of reloads stems more from a reliability/safety issue vs other.
Keep in mind that all CCW instructors will be imparting their own interpretation of what they need to be teach, and have clients qualify with. Just because one instructor suggests this is the way, should not mean that ALL think and believe that way. I see this issue ALL the time. No agency as far as I know is sitting in classes insuring specific laws/rules and other are being followed by the instructor. You have immense freedom to basically teach whatever your opinion about CCW is.
You probably rarely see these kinds of discussion in other States that issue a CCW. This is just another example of a California kind of thing. Don't overthink all of this, in place of that actively carry and do so safely.Comment
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So here is a complicating matter. .327 Federal. 1 revolver could not be listed since it can use 4 different calibers. .327 Federal, 32 H&R Mag, 32 long & 32 short.Comment
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