Gang reprisal...a real concern and/or plan?

[Supersapper]

For the OP:

There really won't be too much anonymity if the shooting ever went to court. Several good pieces of information.

1. Carry good CCW insurance with a good attorney attached. If the punks do come back, it's only a matter of time.

2. Move out of the area as soon as possible. Your wife and children, if they're young, might actually have some level of immunity from the gang retribution, because in prison, if they were caught, killing women and children (especially young ones) apparently is not looked favorably upon by inmates. Be careful anyway though.

My own thoughts:

If it ever did go the distance and your identity is outted either in court, the police documents both or other, then do what you can to eliminate your own identity. Doing all of this below is NOT a gaurantee, but it will make it much more difficult to just randomly spot or search you. A really dedicated person or group could eventually find you, but think about who we're talking about: gangsta punks. Not the CIA. Some of these are easy, other are not so easy and will require help:

1. Change your appearance, even to some plastic surgery if needed.
2. Hair style change.
3. Clothing style change.
4. Grow facial hair, or if you have it, remove it.
5. Change your name to John Smith. Or James Brown. Something really common. Make sure it happens for all of your family members too.
6. If you absolutely have to stay in the area, IMMEDIATELY create a trust and go through the process of SELLING your house to the trust. Don't just "transfer" it unless you can "transfer" the name on the mortgage docs too. Talk with the bank. This item is a big legal doing and time consuming, not to mention a bit more pricey than many people are prepared for.

Come to think of it, this is just good asset protection, so get the house in a trust anyway.

All of these would be permanent. But, to be fair, is the situation this bad? Only you (OP) knows and only you (OP) can say what level you need/want to go with this.

[BC9696]

So if ya shoot someone in self defense and he turns out to be MS-13...you and your family might find yourselves being tortured to death. It's a chilling thought that actually happens. I can understand someone policing their brass and trying to escape before being photographed and then just keeping their mouth shut...to protect their loved ones. It's a lose-lose situation.

[TrailerparkTrash]

So if ya shoot someone in self defense and he turns out to be MS-13...you and your family might find yourselves being tortured to death. It's a chilling thought that actually happens.

Outside of a rival gang faction, or in a central and/or South American neighborhood, where has this happened before in the USA?

[wilit]

About 12 or so years ago, my niece was in a car with a two friends, one of which was either a gang member or had gang ties. Either way, he ended up shooting and killing her friend and shooting her and leaving her for dead. She made a full recovery and testified against the dude. She was getting death threats for months before, during and after the trial. She ended up moving across the US to get away.

[BC9696]

Outside of a rival gang faction, or in a central and/or South American neighborhood, where has this happened before in the USA?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ms-13-initiation-killings-lured-to-a-park-by-girls-and-hacked-to-death-with-machetes

Many gangs have a murder initiation...to move up in the organization you must kill someone...doesn't matter who.

[CessnaDriver]

Ya gonna need to hire these guys. If you can find them.

[Ishooter]

Have you seen this news recently where the store owner shot the robber, most likely the robber is a gangster due to his group carrying guns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrh8Ra0W0-I&t=2s

And this is the store owner's response "this isn't a good place to pick":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZjXDAMXL-E

[TrailerparkTrash]

We are getting way off track. Been carrying for years, had plenty of training, well insured and doubt I will ever be in this situation. But there is always a chance a violent criminal may target you in a gas station or something and if that occurs...is there a way to protect your anonymity?
That's the question. That's the only question.

[JohnnyMtn]

[SharedShots]

Stop watching certain types of movies.

You leave your home, you are out in public and have no expectation of privacy or anonymity. How anyone thinks they can shoot someone and remain anonymous isn't reasonable, you shot someone.

If someone shot one of your family members, forgetting gangs, you aren't going to move mountains to find out who did it? Do you think because you carry a gun that in any way reasonable, you'll escape the same thinking on the part of the person you shot or their family?

If you shoot someone, that is NOT a private matter. If you aren't prepared to accept the peeling of your onion, then just maybe rethinking carrying a gun is something to consider. You can think you are the gray man all you want, that ends the second you draw your gun let along shoot someone.

Too many people seem to think carrying a gun is like being part of a club. It is not. There is no such thing as CCWing, it's not a sport.




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[mjv]

We are getting way off track. Been carrying for years, had plenty of training, well insured and doubt I will ever be in this situation. But there is always a chance a violent criminal may target you in a gas station or something and if that occurs...is there a way to protect your anonymity?
That's the question. That's the only question.

The only answer is no they will find out one way or the other.

[TrailerparkTrash]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ms-13-ini...-with-machetes

Many gangs have a murder initiation...to move up in the organization you must kill someone...doesn't matter who.

The girls in that case were gangster girl prospects. Again, gang vs gang. Try again maybe?

[micro911]

Police can write a report and block out your personal information when they disseminate the report to reporters or other people. I don't know how far it will go before someone finds out about your personal information.

I am pretty sure the gangs know someone who works at government offices and DMV, also.

Even if you move out of area, gangs these days are mobile and travel. No place in the US is safe anymore, I guess.

[johncage]

what exactly do you think policing the brass is going to do? they can tell what kind of gun from the rounds they dig out of his body. why do you think they're so dead set on case markings? if they could do anything with those super incriminating shell casings, the idea of case markings wouldn't exist.

[Tango_Down]

what exactly do you think policing the brass is going to do? they can tell what kind of gun from the rounds they dig out of his body. why do you think they're so dead set on case markings? if they could do anything with those super incriminating shell casings, the idea of case markings wouldn't exist.

Really? I didn't now this. What kind of gun did these rounds come from? Glock, Springfield or Beretta?