Gang reprisal...a real concern and/or plan?

[BC9696]

Is there anything addressing this concern? You've been victimized and shot a gang member. You have every reason to fear reprisal once your identity is known to the gang. Aside from loading your magazines while wearing gloves and/or policing your brass at the scene and not reporting the incident...is there any way to preserve your anonymity to protect yourself and your family from a revenge attack by other gang members after a self-defense action? If the media gets ahold of it, you will never sleep well again.

This is a primary concern of mine as the most likely threat comes from gang members in my area. I've already been stalked once in an underground parking garage (5 young Latinos) and faked my way out of it. I stopped, put my hand on my belt like I was strapped and stared at em. They walked away. That was the day I realized I am no longer viewed as tough prey (in my 60s) and decided to get a CCW permit. But the post-shooting worry of reprisal like that Kevin Bacon movie "DEATH SENTENCE" nags at me. Is there a reliable way protect yourself in this scenario?

[Subotai]

I lived in the barrio once. A gang leader had a beef with my brother. We both (may or may not) have carried for a few months. Gotta do what ya gotta do. Most of the time, if you're cool to the local homies, they don't mess with you, assuming you and they know of each other in the neighborhood.

[VictorFranko]

My Mexican amigo lived in the SFV but got into some sheit with a well-known gang in a park out in Riverside where his sister lived.
He moved to Bakersfield for eight years before coming back into the area.
The threat is real.

[BC9696]

My Mexican amigo lived in the SFV but got into some sheit with a well-known gang in a park out in Riverside where his sister lived.
He moved to Bakersfield for eight years before coming back into the area.
The threat is real.

More real for privileged whites with net worth who don't speak Spanish. Any way to preserve your privacy after a legal SD action?

[Featureless]

Well, if you shot some MF you most likely live in a ghetto, so GTFO.

[bugsy714]

[BC9696]

SJC is not a ghetto but gangs are everywhere now...can I get a serious, adult response please?

[bugsy714]

SJC is not a ghetto but gangs are everywhere now...can I get a serious, adult response please?

[L84CABO]

Um...I'm not sure coming onto a public forum and discussing your plans to NOT report a shooting, and tampering with a crime scene by way of policing your brass, is really the best strategy. Not to mention, if it was a good shoot and you did these things, you would likely be guilty of a crime...not to mention it would cast serious doubts on your innocence. Remember too that there are cameras EVERYWHERE these days.

1) Survive the gunfight
2) Have insurance to deal with whatever legal aftermath may come
3) Be prepared to relocate you and your family..as much as that would suck

That's all I got.

[L-2]

Seriously for the OP:
-It sounds as if you've gotten or are getting a CCW. Congratulations on the CCW and it's just one step in one's overall safety/security plan.

-As mentioned in Post 2, consider ccw insurance and legal coverage. Some of the good companies also have much online, self-training lectures. See:

https://ccwsafe.com/courses/

-Keep in good mental and physical shape as you're preparing for the potential fight of/for your life (and perhaps other folks around you).

-The after legal consequences is another issue and consider protection from whichever LE departments; witness protection; relocating; keeping up with you CCW (where-ever you end up living). Yes, your threat risk can go up if retaliation is of concern, but don't let this make you hesitate at the possible very moment if you decide lethal force is necessary, again at that moment. I don't think the answer is to bow one's head and prey for mercy from an attacker. Your training must include scenarios as to when lethal force will be justified.

-The training should also talk about keeping aware of one's surroundings and staying away from bad areas/situations {although a 60-year old Chinese female dentist was shot and killed in Oakland (Alameda County) at ~2:00 p.m. just this week; possible botched robbery}. Looking at the brief news video, it appears she was a passenger in an upscale car and the driver merely pulled over to park in the middle of the day in an Asian neighborhood. In Oakland, sometimes you just pull over to park where-ever you can find a parking space. The suspects' car may have already been following and hunting for their victim(s).

-from Post 8, SJC=San Juan Capistrano. I've never been there, but if you're truly worried, do consider moving, whether it's a completely different state, &/or some type of gated community. Orange County Sheriff's Office provides the law enforcement for SJC. Perhaps it can also provide some "Neighborhood Watch" type services, too, which also is a way to be aware of one's surroundings.

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I'm older, too, but develope that warrior-attitude and don't be afraid of injury/death. Be prepared to use deadly force (but within legal limits) if necessary. Again, study and learn from the CCWSafe articles and podcasts. I appreciate you, the OP, in thinking of the outcomes of one's actions. Do what you can to live and not be a losing victim; and what to do in its aftermath is a valid subject. Invest and have the wherewithal should you decide to move/relocate along with a network of family and friends, as necessary.

It's scary out there. Just look around you in all directions even if stepping out of your own front door or exiting your car, where ever you might be. Could Dr. Lili Xu in Oakland could have done something different. In that case, perhaps her boyfriend who was supposedly driving her may have been the one and he may be 2nd guessing his actions that day, but he shouldn't have had to. It takes work and awareness to not becoming a victim, I'm sorry to say. Good luck.

(As I was typing, Post 10 before me, said everything with much less words than my post.)

[Brother_Hesekiel]

As sad as it is a fact, deciding where you reside is a major part of being safe. I can't fathom living in gang country and I feel sorry for those who do.

[SharedShots]

What concern? LE have contact with these people on a daily basis. Often the contact involves bad consequences for those people. And?

There are things that go along with using a gun in SD and if anyone isn't prepared to deal with them, put your gun away, life isn't fair. Everyone has the right to SD but that doesn't mean there aren't bad consequences when that time comes.

There is absolutely nothing you can do when someone wants to retaliate. Moving away doesn't stop anything because where are you going to go that someone can't find you if they really want to? It's time to realize there is more to carrying a gun for SD than some optic, the round count in your magazine, how you drop your pants to use the toilet and the chest pump IMA CCW holder thing. You shoot someone and if they survive they are going to be upset. If they don't survive there are other people they knew that are going to be upset. Some of them will want to do to you what you did. That is the way it goes.

You want to remain anonymous after you shoot someone? Seriously?

If you can't handle what everything that comes with carrying then maybe it's time to stop and really think about what it is you are doing. It's not a game, not a fashion statement or activity (CCWing). Its a life and death decision every time you carry and walk out your front door.

Maybe its time to stop treating the carrying of a gun as more than an oh goodie, I have a gun and now let's accessorize and take it for what it is, the potential to end someone else's life because you fear for your own. It's all goodies until you pull that trigger and then reality sets in. That reality is only slightly less if you just draw your gun let alone fire it.

Put the paranoia away and be objective in your reasons for carrying because no doubt there are people who do so because it's neat or a clubbing thing and not anything to do with SD .

When you use your gun, your world is going to change. No amount of insurance is going to make things better. A few people use a gun and talk about it on forums and they become some standard of how it's done and what happens afterward. BS.

That is also why you don't get into other people's business. You have absolutely no idea what happened moments before two people got into it and you decided to be the Knight riding in to save the day (usually a damsel in distress). You also don't know who is who and who they know or who knows them. If it's your life, you do what you need to but anything else, think real hard because there are people out there who don't care anything about you, you are nothing to them and removing you from the planet because you shot someone they knew is only the start of what happens afterwards.




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[TrailerparkTrash]

Stay armed and have insurance that will provide you a top attorney without bankrupting you. Sounds like your going to need it inevitably

[BC9696]

We are getting way off track. Been carrying for years, had plenty of training, well insured and doubt I will ever be in this situation. But there is always a chance a violent criminal may target you in a gas station or something and if that occurs...is there a way to protect your anonymity?
That's the question. That's the only question.

[SharedShots]

We are getting way off track. Been carrying for years, had plenty of training, well insured and doubt I will ever be in this situation. But there is always a chance a violent criminal may target you in a gas station or something and if that occurs...is there a way to protect your anonymity?
That's the question. That's the only question.

You shoot someone in public and just what are you asking for, anonymity?

Think about it.

If you shoot someone and they don't die and there is a trial, is there some suggestion that the accused has no right to face their accuser because of some CCW?

Have you read the Sixth Amendment?



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