Ideal for Los Angeles County to issue CCW

[Big Jake]

Big Jake - stop trolling. I signed up! We LA County residents need to make our voices heard to enact real change. People are right, the sheriff is a politician - get loud enough and things will change.

I'm not trolling. I am being honest. It is simple math and you don't seem to understand that. There are simply too many antis and anyone who is elected sheriff will not issue a CCW to regular people. You will not get a CCW in L.A. County. Period, end of story. It is your time to waste so have at it and good luck!

[dark_hatchling]

I'm not trolling. I am being honest. it is simple math and you don't seem to understand that. There are simply too many antis and anyone who is elected sheriff will not issue a CCW to regular people. You will not get a CCW in L.A. County. Period, end of story. It is your time to waste so have at it and good luck!

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Politics at play here, as always.

[LoadedM333]

I'm not trolling. I am being honest. it is simple math and you don't seem to understand that. There are simply too many antis and anyone who is elected sheriff will not issue a CCW to regular people. You will not get a CCW in L.A. County. Period, end of story. It is your time to waste so have at it and good luck!

[9Cal_OC]

[Notorious]

I have never heard of any LA Sheriff saying anything pro-2A for the citizens. Most chiefs are the same way.

[LoadedM333]

Ideal for Los Angeles County to issue CCW


I am not quite sure who was the Sheriff but it was back in 2004-2005.


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[Stevo818]

Signed up! Thanks

The Sheriff is hosting a virtual town hall for residents in Santa Clarita on June 11th between 2pm and 4pm. Even though it won't make a difference, we should call in and make our voices heard regarding CCW's in the county.

https://www.hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-news/community-news/los-angeles-county-sheriffs-to-host-virtual-town-hall-for-santa-clarita-residents-329890

There is a link in the story to register for the event.

Signed up! Lets try talk some reasonable sensible options. Fact is 99.99999% of ccw holders in Ca realize its a "privilege" and dare not do anything to jeopardize that.

[Big Jake]

Signed up! Lets try talk some reasonable sensible options. Fact is 99.99999% of ccw holders in Ca realize its a "privilege" and dare not do anything to jeopardize that.

There are no "sensible options" for CCW issuance in L.A. County. They simply will not issue to regular citizens. You can discuss it all you want. At the end of the day you will not get a permit. You are truly a wasting your time, however, as I posted above. It is your time to waste so have at it!

[dark_hatchling]

There are no "sensible options" for CCW issuance in L.A. County. They simply will not issue to regular citizens. You can discuss it all you want. At the end of the day you will not get a permit. You are truly a wasting your time, however, as I posted above. It is your time to waste so have at it!

Once again. You're 100% correct.

"They" have already made up their mind a long time ago. It has absolutely nothing to do with sensibility either. They know all the data there is to know. It simply does not matter what you place in front of them. They do not want you or I to own or posses a firearm.

[Stevo818]

There are no "sensible options" for CCW issuance in L.A. County. They simply will not issue to regular citizens. You can discuss it all you want. At the end of the day you will not get a permit. You are truly a wasting your time, however, as I posted above. It is your time to waste so have at it!

[RickD427]

Until something changes with the statutes, or the case law, an ordinary person simply is not going to get a CCW permit from the LAPD or LASD.

The LAPD Chief does not get to set the city's policy for CCW issuance. That prerogative belongs to the Police Commission, the Chief is the executor of Commission policy. When you look at the composition of the Commission, and it's history, there's no reason to believe that any change is forthcoming.

LASD runs quite differently, but to the same result. The Sheriff sets his own policies, and carries out those policies. But unlike the LAPD Chief, he has to run for re-election every four years and is mindful of his constituency. The current Sheriff has made his personal views on CCW issuance clear. The majority of his constituency does not support CCW issuance.

The current level of CCW advocacy simply isn't adequate to create a change.

IMHO, the most effective avenue is through the legal system, but that's a slow and expensive process.

[Stevo818]

Until something changes with the statutes, or the case law, an ordinary person simply is not going to get a CCW permit from the LAPD or LASD.

The LAPD Chief does not get to set the city's policy for CCW issuance. That prerogative belongs to the Police Commission, the Chief is the executor of Commission policy. When you look at the composition of the Commission, and it's history, there's no reason to believe that any change is forthcoming.

LASD runs quite differently, but to the same result. The Sheriff sets his own policies, and carries out those policies. But unlike the LAPD Chief, he has to run for re-election every four years and is mindful of his constituency. The current Sheriff has made his personal views on CCW issuance clear. The majority of his constituency does not support CCW issuance.

The current level of CCW advocacy simply isn't adequate to create a change.

IMHO, the most effective avenue is through the legal system, but that's a slow and expensive process.

[Notorious]

Unfortunately that attitude pervades the upper ranks because they don't want to be liable for issuing CCWs even though the law absolves them.

[Stevo818]

Because 10 million people can't move to another County. He have to fight the good fight where we're at. Sheriff is just a politican. A bad one it seems, but one none-the-less. If this one isn't moved than there will be another one at some point we can work on. All it takes is one yes and +10,000 permits will get issued to law abiding citizens.

[RickD427]

Stevo,

Bob Lindsey ran for Sheriff the last time around. IMHO, he would have made an excellent Sheriff and was pro-CCW. He had a good record of integrity and stood up to a number of the bad acts of the administration, to the extent that his son was tried on charges that were falsified by the prior Undersheriff. His son was acquitted at trial (and jury requested the opportunity to be photographed with him following the trial, and to express their gratitude for his service). The county later settled the civil lawsuit for a substantial sum.

Ken Masse and Robert Olmstead were also former department members who ran for the office. Ken was pro-CCW and I don't know Robert's stance, but also believe that he was. Both also would have made outstanding Sheriffs. Robert was a key player in bringing the last round of executive misconduct to light.

But none of these men received anywhere near enough votes to win. L.A. County is quite political. The current Sheriff understood the politics and made all the necessary promises needed in order to win the election. The problem is that he's now unable to keep all of the promises made.