Santa Clara

[Paladin]

I just went through all the posts since 2017 January 01 and not a single person says they applied for a CCW with the Santa Clara SO, much less whether they were approved or denied and what their GC statement was like. Yet everyone around here is saying how anti Smith is. She could have changed a year and a half ago and none of us would know it.

I've seen IAs that charge as little as $45 or as much as $115 for an application to get processed to the point of GC approval or denial. If you want a CCW and can afford to lose something in that range, and you can work up more than just SD = GC, go for it and follow it to its conclusion. Let us know how it goes.

I just went back to mid Dec 2015 and, AFAICanTell, everyone who applied did so pending Peruta (i.e., they did not submit checks/MOs and used only SD/PP = GC and said to wait until Peruta finalized). My *guess* is all of those have been shredded or are sitting in storage somewhere.

IOW, since Nov 2015 no one has said they applied with SCSO/Smith, used more than SD = GC, paid the fees and told them to process their app now.

IOW, for all we know, back on 2016 Jan 01 Smith could have loosened her GC requirement and we still wouldn't know it....

At least 2 1/2 years of ignorance. I'll let SC Co folk spend their time going back further to see when was the last poster who claims to have been issued or denied a CCW by Smith. I started at p. 15 and went forward: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...352799&page=15

ETA: I went back to 2014 June, 6 months after the 3-judge panel that gave us a Peruta win (before the en banc loss) and right after Smith was reelected last time. Guess what? In the past 4 YEARS since then NOT ONE poster has said they applied the normal way and told the sheriff to process now (i.e., NOT using SD = GC and not pending Peruta), paid the fees and was either denied or issued.... at least 4 years of ignorance as to Smith's GC standard.

Here's where I started: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...352799&page=12 You guys can go back further than that so figure out when was the last time anyone actually applied with Smith.

[Paladin]

Just skimming over that I did not see "CCW" or "concealed carry" mentioned.

If you guys want to get an idea of whether Smith will lose or not, search online for the percent of all votes cast for all other candidates and add them to Hirokawa's and see if that percent is greater or less than the percent Smith won in the June primary.

FWIW, of all "lower 5"/"vital 5" SFBA counties (SF, SM, SC, AL and CoCoCo), SC is the ONLY one with a significant Repub presence. That's why I keep encouraging you folks to organize and act (while you still can). You're our only hope for a non-judicial improvement in CCW issuance in the lower 5 SFBA.

Bolded and bumped for those of you who are willing to do something for yourselves....

[Paladin]

I was under the impression that they weren’t going to issue permits unless Peruta was ruled in our favor. I don’t know how to start the conversation with them when they’re not legally obligated to issue permits.

They are legally required to issue CCWs, to "exercise their discretion" per Salute v. Pitchess. What Peruta was going to require them to do is accept "self defense" as sufficient Good Cause (aka SD = GC).

If you had wanted, you could have paid the fees and had them process your app back then and, if you used merely SD = GC, been denied. I'm saying someone needs to go the conventional route now (i.e., do NOT apply with only SD = GC, but work up the best GC statement you can prove) and apply and let us know how it goes, including whether the non-LE staff and LEOs involved were encouraging/helpful or discouraging/unhelpful.

I should have also mentioned that if you live in one of the four Santa Clara Co cities that also issue CCWs (there may be others that just don't mention it on their websites), you should go thru it first with them and then, if they deny you, apply thru the SO/Smith.

If your PD issues and they deny you for GC, be sure to mention that to the SO when you apply to them because they'll want to contact that PD to see that you really were denied only for lack of GC and not for lack of GMC (i.e., something your own PD knows about you that the SO might not). Being up front about that shows the SO that you're being open & honest with them vs them finding out on their own and then seeing your the type who tried hide relevant info from them. A denial for lack of GC doesn't hurt you: they know that's up to the CLEO and not about your character.

Here's a thread I -- who doesn't even live in Santa Clara Co -- made for you folk after having gone thru EVERY one of your incorporated cities' PDs' websites looking for info re. CCWs: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1473741

Again: more stuff that you SC folk should be doing for yourselves but are not. Your county is the most populous in NorCal (1.8M) and 6th statewide, yet there's less than a dozen of you who are regular posters. Where is everyone?!!

[Paladin]

I was under the impression that they weren’t going to issue permits unless Peruta was ruled in our favor. I don’t know how to start the conversation with them when they’re not legally obligated to issue permits.

I've seen IAs that charge as little as $45 or as much as $115 for an application to get processed to the point of GC approval or denial. If you want a CCW and can afford to lose something in that range, and you can work up more than just SD = GC, go for it and follow it to its conclusion. Let us know how it goes.

I would go over the info on the SDSO's CCW webpage and then the info at SDCGO re. CCWs. Then fill out a SCSO app incl the strongest GC you can prove by evidence, and apply!

https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx

Time to hit the rack....

[phdo]

Peruta was denied cert. 2017 June -- over a year ago. Time to contact them again, don't you think?

[Paladin]

The first decision before it went en banc. I don’t remember sending a check because no fees were required on the application. I emailed the gentleman that’s in charge of CCW applications. His name is Kurtis Stenderup. I was told that they were waiting on Peruta. If and when Peruta was finalized, they would process applications in the order received.

Peruta was denied cert. 2017 June -- over a year ago. Time to contact them again, don't you think?

If you are interested in applying for a CCW permit, please complete the application below and submit it either via mail or in person to:

Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office
ATTN: CCW Unit
55 W Younger Avenue
San Jose, CA 95110


If you have any questions, please email CCW@sheriff.sccgov.org

From: https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx

[phdo]

Santa Clara -- APPLY to Get a Spot in Line

What was the date you mailed it? (There were several "Peruta decisions".)

Was your check deposited/cashed?

Did you email/phone/drop in/appointment to follow up? If not, why not?

[Paladin]

I applied after the Peruta decision. I sent the application certified. I don’t know what to do next. I’m pretty sure my application is buried under a pile of applications somewhere if not in the garbage.

What was the date you mailed it? (There were several "Peruta decisions".)

Was your check deposited/cashed?

Did you email/phone/drop in/appointment to follow up? If not, why not?

[phdo]

I just went through all the posts since 2017 January 01 and not a single person says they applied for a CCW with the Santa Clara SO, much less whether they were approved or denied and what their GC statement was like. Yet everyone around here is saying how anti Smith is. She could have changed a year and a half ago and none of us would know it.



I've seen IAs that charge as little as $45 or as much as $115 for an application to get processed to the point of GC approval or denial. If you want a CCW and can afford to lose something in that range, and you can work up more than just SD = GC, go for it and follow it to its conclusion. Let us know how it goes.

[Paladin]

I’m willing to help out with whatever I can. I just can’t do any planning or organizing. Let me know if you guys need anything.

I just went through all the posts since 2017 January 01 and not a single person says they applied for a CCW with the Santa Clara SO, much less whether they were approved or denied and what their GC statement was like. Yet everyone around here is saying how anti Smith is. She could have changed a year and a half ago and none of us would know it.

I've seen IAs that charge as little as $45 or as much as $115 for an application to get processed to the point of GC approval or denial. If you want a CCW and can afford to lose something in that range, and you can work up more than just SD = GC, go for it and follow it to its conclusion. Let us know how it goes.