Santa Clara

[scootle]

Anybody submitted their quals and training certificate to permitium since the new year and get confirmation for final payment fees yet?

Uploaded mine on the 3rd and even emailed them but no dice so far.

Curious if I still pay the old fees or gonna make me pay the new fees.

Just got the approval email and payment request, can confirm they only demand the $271.96 for our applications prior to the fee changes. Will see how long they take from payment to pick-up...

[scootle]

I renewed in September. No references needed then.

You renewed with SCCSO in September? You had a CCW in SCC prior to Bruen? If so, impressive!

The 3x personal references requirement for new CCW applicants is new as of 1 Jan 2024 per SB2 taking effect.

[igs]

References are part of the interview process. Interview is optional for renewals. This is where the OC sheriff messed up. Someone in their department saw a post on here saying references arent on the renewal app so they decided to add it without having any understanding of the law.

[Jess B. Guy]

I renewed in September. No references needed then.

[igs]

Has anyone needed to renew yet? Or knows if the 3 references that is now required is required for Renewals as well?

The renewal doesn't require references.

[haw1144]

Has anyone needed to renew yet? Or knows if the 3 references that is now required is required for Renewals as well?

[Badly Browned]

That's sarcastic right? We all know that minimizing resources on this entire CCW bureaucracy is intentional. That's why SB2 added yet more layers of onerous requirements to the process. They want this to be as painful and as ostensibly intrusive as possible. The slower they do this, the more frustrated people get, and the less likely others will bother to apply.

All working exactly as they intended.

Oh I know.

Trying to speak it into existence I guess.

[scootle]

if they gonna be increasing application prices at least get some more manpower to process these things...

That's sarcastic right? We all know that minimizing resources on this entire CCW bureaucracy is intentional. That's why SB2 added yet more layers of onerous requirements to the process. They want this to be as painful and as ostensibly intrusive as possible. The slower they do this, the more frustrated people get, and the less likely others will bother to apply.

All working exactly as they intended.

[KGLG]

I just got an email from them as well. It says they will be reviewing SHORTLY. Not sure of their definition of shortly, but hopefully before the long weekend (like this afternoon).

[Badly Browned]

I completed my training with Saber on 12/30 and uploaded all the docs to Permitium on 1/2 (also emailed to SCSO). I called the sheriffs office on Tuesday, 1/9 and amazingly someone answered! She said the payment emails ?would be sent when they could get to them?. I asked when that might be and she said ?within a couple of days?. Nothing yet, maybe today 🤞

Just got an email from them.

Basically said the same thing. They will be reviewing the applications soon and will notify for approval and final payments.

if they gonna be increasing application prices at least get some more manpower to process these things...

[scootle]

I spoke to Daniel a couple days ago and he told me that I was "grandfathered in at the previous rates. I applied 2/23/23. Was approved for training on 12/19/23. He did not elaborate on what qualifies someone for "grandfathering". I suspect because the application was submitted, and fees were acknowledged, before the increase.

Does anyone know if there was any public announcement or actual clarity on what the effective date was on these fee increases? The fee page on Permitium doesn't even say what date these were updated or took effect.

It was quite literally a stealth change out of the blue, from what I can gather.

[KGLG]

I completed my training with Saber on 12/30 and uploaded all the docs to Permitium on 1/2 (also emailed to SCSO). I called the sheriffs office on Tuesday, 1/9 and amazingly someone answered! She said the payment emails ?would be sent when they could get to them?. I asked when that might be and she said ?within a couple of days?. Nothing yet, maybe today 🤞

[MuckTheGhost]

Anybody submitted their quals and training certificate to permitium since the new year and get confirmation for final payment fees yet?

Uploaded mine on the 3rd and even emailed them but no dice so far.

Curious if I still pay the old fees or gonna make me pay the new fees.

I spoke to Daniel a couple days ago and he told me that I was "grandfathered in at the previous rates. I applied 2/23/23. Was approved for training on 12/19/23. He did not elaborate on what qualifies someone for "grandfathering". I suspect because the application was submitted, and fees were acknowledged, before the increase.

[tbombaci]

Holy mother of *censored* -- has anyone contacted CRPA about this? I feel like this needs to be addressed.

(Doing the math, we're gonna go from approx $1051 out of pocket on the old fee schedule to upwards of $1369... that's over $300 increase!)

This has got to be criminal. From the SCCSO Permitium site: https://scso.permitium.com/ccw/start

Damn. I paid $66 on Day 1 and then 271.96 for the last payment. The new fees add an additional $324 for literally nothing.

[Badly Browned]

Anybody submitted their quals and training certificate to permitium since the new year and get confirmation for final payment fees yet?

Uploaded mine on the 3rd and even emailed them but no dice so far.

Curious if I still pay the old fees or gonna make me pay the new fees.