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  • #91
    ColdDeadHands1
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 3391

    Originally posted by skyscraper
    Wrong.

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    Was I off on the land ownership? Will 50 acres cut it? 100?

    And my post isn't an attack on landowners at all. My beef is how the Sheriff gives certain people priority to defend their lives over others.


    "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"

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    • #92
      Paladin
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2005
      • 12380

      For SLO CGNers who want to do something beneficial, rather than starting needless arguments, the SLO SO's Permitium site says

      NOTE:

      If you are a resident of the:

      City of Arroyo Grande
      City of Atascadero
      City of Grover Beach
      City of Morro Bay
      City of Paso Robles
      City of Pismo Beach
      City of San Luis Obispo

      you will need to contact the law enforcement agency in the city to apply for your Concealed Carry Weapon license per California Penal Code section 26155.
      From: https://sloca.permitium.com/ccw/start

      It does NOT mention that you can apply with the SO if your PD denies your app. IOW, they aren't saying you can apply with the SLO after a PD denial ("prior denial"), but only that you "need" to apply with your PD.

      Does that mean if you are denied you cannot apply with the SO? Or that you cannot apply with the SO directly, without a prior denial? While both of those used to be illegal (so-called "reverse G"), the law was changed a few years ago and now a city PD and their SO can enter a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), saying the ONLY the PD will issue to that city's residents (as well as the traditional MOU saying that ONLY the sheriff can issue to that city's residents).

      If a local resident can get in touch with the SO and make a Public Records Act (PRA) request for ALL MOUs between the SO and SLO PD's re. issuing CCWs that would be helpful to all SLO residents and this thread's OP should be updated to reflect what you find out. (Any one of the listed Mods can do that.) I'd recommend calling the Public Information Officer at (805) 781-4547 There will be a form to fill out and a slight fee (photocopying and processing), so try to get a cost estimate before submitting the PRA request form.

      (Yet once again, this is more time and effort on my half that does NOT help me since I'm not in SLO.)
      Last edited by Paladin; 12-16-2018, 1:38 PM.
      240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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      • #93
        skyscraper
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2011
        • 5196

        Originally posted by ColdDeadHands1
        Was I off on the land ownership? Will 50 acres cut it? 100?

        And my post isn't an attack on landowners at all. My beef is how the Sheriff gives certain people priority to defend their lives over others.
        I'm not aware of anything in their policy stipulating land ownership being a prerequisite . Maybe you can cite that pertinent information ?

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        • #94
          Hopalong
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 2436

          Originally posted by skyscraper
          I'm not aware of anything in their policy stipulating land ownership being a prerequisite . Maybe you can cite that pertinent information ?

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          I said nothing about rural OWNERSHIP

          I said nothing about being a property owner

          I said rural.

          All sheriffs are giving the right to protect themselves to some people over others, unless they are "shall issue"
          Last edited by Hopalong; 12-16-2018, 4:09 PM.

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          • #95
            Strykeback
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1574

            Since this forum is more active than Santa Barbara county though we are neighbors...I'm being told to apply to Santa Maria PD by officers as the new chief is very ccw friendly. I'm preparing statements now.

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            • #96
              Paladin
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2005
              • 12380

              Originally posted by Strykeback
              I'm being told to apply to Santa Maria PD by officers as the new chief is very ccw friendly. I'm preparing statements now.

              That sounds like great news! I just hope it is true. Santa Maria has a population of ~110,000 out of a total for SB Co of ~425,000. IOW, if true, ~1/4th of SB Co residents now have a chance for a CCW.



              Just looking over the PD's website briefly, I couldn't find any info re. CCWs on it on their FAQs page, Programs & Services page or Hot Topics




              ETA: I did a little searching and found:

              Records Bureau

              The Records Bureau, a vital component of the Police Department, provides assistance to the public. Hours are: 8:00 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. Monday through Saturday, closed Sundays and holidays. Records' personnel are the initial contact with our residents. They assist residents in obtaining information, direct them to available resources within the department and refer them to the appropriate city agencies and services. This includes providing fingerprinting services, furnishing copies of crime and traffic reports, processing permits to carry concealed weapons and conducting computer searches. In addition, Records registers sex, narcotic and arson offenders residing within the City of Santa Maria.
              From: https://www.cityofsantamaria.org/cit...pport-division CCW info is pretty much hidden (I added the bolding), with no linked CCW policy, nor state DOJ application.

              Originally posted by Strykeback
              Since this forum is more active than Santa Barbara county though we are neighbors...
              Please make a post about this in the Santa Barbara thread (https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=352796). That thread is dead because no one posts in it. You're not posting in it because it is dead. See the "chicken and egg" problem?

              If you post this potentially good news over there, more Santa Barbara CGNers will be encouraged (vs SLO CGNers in this thread), and esp Santa Maria CGNers who will apply.
              Last edited by Paladin; 12-17-2018, 11:51 AM.
              240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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              • #97
                Strykeback
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 1574

                Originally posted by Paladin

                That sounds like great news! I just hope it is true. Santa Maria has a population of ~110,000 out of a total for SB Co of ~425,000. IOW, if true, ~1/4th of SB Co residents now have a chance for a CCW.



                Just looking over the PD's website briefly, I couldn't find any info re. CCWs on it on their FAQs page, Programs & Services page or Hot Topics




                ETA: I did a little searching and found:

                From: https://www.cityofsantamaria.org/cit...pport-division CCW info is pretty much hidden (I added the bolding), with no linked CCW policy, nor state DOJ application.

                Please make a post about this in the Santa Barbara thread (https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=352796). That thread is dead because no one posts in it. You're not posting in it because it is dead. See the "chicken and egg" problem.

                If you post this potentially good news over there, more Santa Barbara CGNers will be encouraged (vs SLO CGNers in this thread), and esp Santa Maria CGNers who will apply.
                Thanks will do.

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                • #98
                  RumT
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 35

                  Picking up first renewal today from SLO Co. The online format was nice.

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                  • #99
                    furyous68
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 1878

                    I'm submitting my application to City of Arroyo Grande PD tomorrow. I've been told by several people our CoP is very CCW friendly. Wish me luck, not too sure how it will go.
                    95,000,000 people die each day in the U.S. from gun violence

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                    • BakeTownFF
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 12

                      Lots of interesting info in this thread and varying takes on the process... I just received word back recently that the application was accepted and was told to take my class and schedule an interview. Anyone who’s completed the interview with SLO SO have any tips on what to prepare for? I know there’s a new undersheriff as of 2019 so I’m sure nobody has sat with him yet. Thanks.!
                      Last edited by BakeTownFF; 01-08-2019, 8:45 PM. Reason: Removed needless info

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                      • Strykeback
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 1574

                        They told you to take your class before the interview? And then if they deny you you are out the couple hundred for thr class?

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                        • BakeTownFF
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 12

                          Originally posted by Strykeback
                          They told you to take your class before the interview? And then if they deny you you are out the couple hundred for thr class?

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                          • The Mikado
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 3

                            Anybody know if:

                            Grover Beach is set to auto-deny

                            and

                            If having existing CHLs from both TX and FL is helpful?

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                            • Paladin
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 12380

                              Originally posted by BakeTownFF
                              Lots of interesting info in this thread and varying takes on the process... I just received word back recently that the application was accepted and was told to take my class and schedule an interview. Anyone who’s completed the interview with SLO SO have any tips on what to prepare for? I know there’s a new undersheriff as of 2019 so I’m sure nobody has sat with him yet. Thanks.!
                              Your application was "accepted" or was your Good Cause approved? It is illegal for them to require pay of any other fees (e.g., training costs), before they tell you whether your Good Cause was approved or not. But, of course, just because they're law enforcement officers don't expect them to obey the law....

                              Librarian knows the exact code. PM him for details to protest, if they have that illegal requirement. If they do, you might want to contact their County Council on your own, might have to threaten getting the courts involved by requesting a judge to issue a writ of mandamus ordering them to change their CCW policy to conform to state law.
                              Last edited by Paladin; 01-14-2019, 9:26 PM.
                              240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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                              • Paladin
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 12380

                                Originally posted by The Mikado
                                Anybody know if:

                                Grover Beach is set to auto-deny

                                and

                                If having existing CHLs from both TX and FL is helpful?
                                What did you find out by looking around their PD's website? By contacting them via their Facebook page? By dropping by the PD and picking up a copy of their CCW Policy? They're required to have a written policy by law. PM Librarian if they resist and you need to cite the code or have a judge issue a writ of mandamus ordering them to obey the law.
                                Last edited by Paladin; 01-14-2019, 9:28 PM.
                                240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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