San Luis Obispo

[Tango-Alpha]

Someone with more knowledge on that detail will br along shortly im sure. I looked into it when I was working at the SLO costco since there's a carve out for "spending the majority of your time in the county" even though I live in Santa Maria in SB county. No dice. But I would think you can call the sheriffs office and just ask who you are applying to first. Goes fairly quickly if you read the last 6 or 7 pages on here.

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[Strykeback]

Someone with more knowledge on that detail will br along shortly im sure. I looked into it when I was working at the SLO costco since there's a carve out for "spending the majority of your time in the county" even though I live in Santa Maria in SB county. No dice. But I would think you can call the sheriffs office and just ask who you are applying to first. Goes fairly quickly if you read the last 6 or 7 pages on here.

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[Tango-Alpha]

You didn't have one while living in OC? They pretty much switched to shall issue 2 years ago after peruta. I know a few in AG with them, go for it. If you are out in the unincorporated area of town its a given. Self defense should be passable in the city itself as well.

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[Strykeback]

You didn't have one while living in OC? They pretty much switched to shall issue 2 years ago after peruta. I know a few in AG with them, go for it. If you are out in the unincorporated area of town its a given. Self defense should be passable in the city itself as well.

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[Tango-Alpha]

[Paladin]

For those who want to see the Good Cause map with SLO now "light green":

[tokyodrftr]

Their online service is very good. I just did a modification via iPhone. Changing guns


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[baggss]

I'm now thinking Sheriff Parkinson has really had a change of heart about CCWs and has made a change of policy. I've recommended to baggss, the current maker of the CA CCW Good Cause County Map, that SLO be changed from Yellow to Light Green for the 2017 July update.

Excellent!

[bongski]

[Paladin]

I just realized something else no longer a part of the sheriff's CCW app information: the requirement of a prior denial by your CoP if you live in an issuing city in SLO.

So, Sheriff Parkinson has: (1) put the CCW application process online; (2) removed the prior denial requirement for residents of issuing cities; and, most importantly, (3) removed the extremely restrictive GC description from the application materials.

I'm now thinking Sheriff Parkinson has really had a change of heart about CCWs and has made a change of policy. I've recommended to baggss, the current maker of the CA CCW Good Cause County Map, that SLO be changed from Yellow to Light Green for the 2017 July update.

I've also requested a Mod on this forum change this SLO County thread's symbol to Thumbs Up, edit the OP to refer to this post, and to remove the big quote from the sheriff's old CCW policy.

Hopefully, those 2 changes by us will increase the number of law-abiding folk applying for and getting issued CCWs in SLO Co.

N.B. This could all be a mistake. It could be that the sheriff in fact has not liberalized issuance. In that case: (1) I'll just ask a Mod to change the subject line symbol and edit the OP back again. (2) baggss can just change SLO back to yellow again with the 2018 January update. (3) Until then, the map, as we've always said, can easily be off by 1 color, one way or the other, but not by 2 colors.

But, hopefully, we're not being fooled, and real change has arrived in SLO!

[Paladin]

An idea struck me.

If the SLO sheriff has broadened acceptable GC and wants to issue more CCWs, quite often the best sources of info to verify/clarify that (outside of the SO) are the people he accepts for doing CCW training & qualification test.

I encourage some SLO folk to contact each of the below and ask them if they think the sheriff has liberalized issuance and if so, how far? IOW, does the average law-abiding gun owner, who isn't a jeweler, gold dealer, cash rent collector, etc, have a decent chance of getting issued? You can even suggest they make a post in this thread, if they feel like it, or make a thread advertising their classes at: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=212

Or you can post the bottom line of what they said so other SLO law-abiding folk will have an idea if applying is worth trying.

Remember: the more folks CCWing, the better the odds some other CCWer will come across a BG before that BG comes across you!

Permits Office

Approved Training Sites

San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Office Approved CCW Qualification Vendors (Alphabetical)

Advantage Personal Defense & Tactics
Ian McKnight
450 15th St. Los Osos, CA 93402
(805) 310‐3003

Range Masters
11 South Higuera Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
(805) 545‐0322 e‐mail: rangemasters@sbcglobal.net

The Gun School Atascadero & Santa Maria
Danny R. Wells
(559) 936‐9909 e‐mail: dan@thegunschool.com

From:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/permitium-downloads/SLOSO/Instructors.pdf

[skyscraper]

"Change CGNers can believe in" has come to SLO!

1) The SO has gone to online applications. After any teething problems get sorted out, this should streamline and speed up both initial and renewal applications.

2) The SO requires 3 letter of recommendation. The CCW FAQs pdf does not specify if the 3 must live in SLO Co.

More at:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/permitium-downloads/SLOSO/CCW_FAQ.pdf

3) From the CCW "Start" page (bolding added):
More at:

https://sloca.permitium.com/ccw/start

While the SO does not give any idea of what passes for GC, at least they've eliminated the highly restrictive GC language from the previous materials.

It sucks that you can only have 2 guns on your CCW. Quite often, someone will have a primary and a BUG (or a larger and smaller handgun that they alternate between carrying, depending upon perceived risk, weather, appropriate dress, etc), and if you end up using one in a shooting (or just have to have some work done on it), you won't be able to carry an equivalent until you get it back, possibly months later. You'll be stuck EDCing whatever the 2nd gun on your CCW is.

4) The new FAQs pdf (link above) also says,



Other relevant (to GC) FAQs are:



BOTTOM LINE: Going online with apps is great: it should save the applicant time and effort and save the SO time, money and effort.

But the real issue for the vast majority of law-abiding residents in SLO Co is the Good Cause standard. While on the bright side the SO materials no longer have the restrictive language, that does NOT mean the SLO sheriff has liberalized his GC standard. But since other posters have suggested the sheriff is liberalizing issuance and since the SO has made these positive changes, I encourage SLO residents who want a CCW to look into applying. There are still no guarantees you won't be shot down for insufficient/lack of GC, but the expense is minimal up to that point. If I lived in SLO Co, I'd now give it a shot. [emoji106]

Anyone who does apply, be sure to keep notes about how the process goes so that once you're approved/denied, you'll be able to let the rest of us know how it went. This will help other GGs decide whether to apply or not and also help others to decide who to vote for as sheriff in 2018....

From personal experience , the three letters of recommendation do not have to be from SLO residents.

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[Paladin]

Another month and still no change for the better (or at all).

The primary for SLO sheriff is in just over 12 months from now and the deadline for candidates is in ~9 months.

"Change CGNers can believe in" has come to SLO!

1) The SO has gone to online applications. After any teething problems get sorted out, this should streamline and speed up both initial and renewal applications.

2) The SO requires 3 letter of recommendation. The CCW FAQs pdf does not specify if the 3 must live in SLO Co.

NEW applicants: Scan a copy of at least 3 signed letters of character reference from individuals other than relatives. The letters do not need to be lengthy, but do need to speak to your character. All letters must include contact information for the person providing the reference. Please include Concealed Carry Weapon Permit Application as a heading on each letter. Letter templates are not accepted.

More at:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/permitium-downloads/SLOSO/CCW_FAQ.pdf

3) From the CCW "Start" page (bolding added):

Concealed Carry Weapon License Requirements: must meet ALL requirements

Completing the Application

Answering all the questions on this standard application does not guarantee the issuance of a Concealed Carry Weapon license. The determination whether to issue the license is at the discretion of the licensing authority. Pursuant to California Penal Code section 26160, each licensing authority will have a written policy summarizing their requirements for issuance of a Concealed Carry Weapon license. In addition, prior to issuing a Concealed Carry Weapon license, the state statutes require proof that:

The applicant is of good moral character;
Good cause exists to issue the Concealed Carry Weapon license;
The applicant meets residence requirements; and
The course of training prescribed by the licensing authority has been completed.

The following pages include standardized questions to determine whether a Concealed Carry Weapon license shall be issued.

The applicant will certify under penalty of perjury that all answers provided in the application are true and correct to the best of their knowledge and belief. The applicant will also acknowledge that information disclosed on this application may be subject to public disclosure.

<snip>

Who May be Issued a License

The licensing authority specified in Penal Code sections 26150 and 26155 (a Sheriff or the Chief or other head of a municipal police department) may issue a license to persons who are of good moral character, who have completed a course of training, and have good cause for issuance of a Concealed Carry Weapon license. All applicants for a Concealed Carry Weapon license will be fingerprinted and state and federal records will be checked to determine if they are eligible to possess firearms. Click here to view all categories that would prohibit a person from possessing firearms and being granted a Concealed Carry Weapon license.

<snip>

Prior to Filling Out This Application

<snip>

Confirm that each firearm (maximum of 2) you are listing on your Concealed Carry Weapon license is registered to you or your spouse/registered domestic partner. The firearm cannot be registered to any other family member. The firearm also cannot be registered as a “single shot”.

More at:

https://sloca.permitium.com/ccw/start

While the SO does not give any idea of what passes for GC, at least they've eliminated the highly restrictive GC language from the previous materials.

It sucks that you can only have 2 guns on your CCW. Quite often, someone will have a primary and a BUG (or a larger and smaller handgun that they alternate between carrying, depending upon perceived risk, weather, appropriate dress, etc), and if you end up using one in a shooting (or just have to have some work done on it), you won't be able to carry an equivalent until you get it back, possibly months later. You'll be stuck EDCing whatever the 2nd gun on your CCW is. Plus, remember the saying: "Two is one and one is none." Murphy's Law rules during combat.

4) The new FAQs pdf (link above) also says,

What are the basic requirements to obtain a CCW license?

You must meet Residency, Character and Cause requirements per CA Penal Code Section 26150. You will be required to complete the application completely and honestly, pass a Range Qualification course of fire and the required amount of training per San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s policy.

Other relevant (to GC) FAQs are:

What number do I call if I have any questions regarding my CCW license application?

You can call the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff’s Permit Office Monday‐Thursday from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM. They can be reached at 800‐781‐4575

Can I appeal a denial of a CCW license?

There is no official appeal process. The decision was based on information that you provide in your application or revealed in the background.

BOTTOM LINE: Going online with apps is great: it should save the applicant time and effort and save the SO time, money and effort.

But the real issue for the vast majority of law-abiding residents in SLO Co is the Good Cause standard. While on the bright side the SO materials no longer have the restrictive language, that does NOT mean the SLO sheriff has liberalized his GC standard. But since other posters have suggested the sheriff is liberalizing issuance and since the SO has made these positive changes, I encourage SLO residents who want a CCW to look into applying. There are still no guarantees you won't be shot down for insufficient/lack of GC, but the expense is minimal up to that point. If I lived in SLO Co, I'd now give it a shot.

Anyone who does apply, be sure to keep notes about how the process goes so that once you're approved/denied, you'll be able to let the rest of us know how it went. This will help other GGs decide whether to apply or not and also help others to decide who to vote for as sheriff in 2018....

[Gray Peterson]

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