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  • Strykeback
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    Originally posted by Chewy65
    Interesting problem. A business owner may keep a loaded firearm in areas of his property that are not open to the public. For instance, a gun shop owner may carry ("bear arms") while behind the counter but not in the area of the store open to customers.
    Seems stupid. The business owner is on his entire property. Why wouldn't he be able to carry up to his patio?

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  • Chewy65
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    Last year the SLO sheriff liberalized issuance. They now no longer seem hostile to applicants. I'd give them a call or drop by and ask them directly.

    The "tasting room" issue is interesting, because I think you'll be carrying their (right now) as the owner of the business, not under the CCW laws. Can a bar owner CC in his own bar? Can he CC and drink alcohol, as long as he is not drunk? Can a homeowner get drunk at home, suffer a home invasion robbery, grab his gun while still intoxicated and justifiably shoot the BGs, and not get prosecuted??? Interesting questions....

    You might want to consult a lawyer regardless of what the SLO sheriff's office says.
    Interesting problem. A business owner may keep a loaded firearm in areas of his property that are not open to the public. For instance, a gun shop owner may carry ("bear arms") while behind the counter but not in the area of the store open to customers.

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by aaronob
    I'm one of the many alcohol business owners in the county. I carry large sums of cash and possess high-valuable assets at my place of business (alcohol and the equipment used to make it). My business is also located in the county, not within incorporated city limits. I understand that some(?) county's CCW permits state that you cannot consume alcohol or carry in a bar. Does this expand further and prohibit me from carrying in 1) places that manufacture alcohol and/or 2) a tasting room? If so, will the sheriff just reject me (either because it's illegal or they just plain don't like the idea of it) or could I make the case that I only carry when outside of my business going to the bank and such? Does anyone have any advice for me?
    Last year the SLO sheriff liberalized issuance. They now no longer seem hostile to applicants. I'd give them a call or drop by and ask them directly.

    The "tasting room" issue is interesting, because I think you'll be carrying their (right now) as the owner of the business, not under the CCW laws. Can a bar owner CC in his own bar? Can he CC and drink alcohol, as long as he is not drunk? Can a homeowner get drunk at home, suffer a home invasion robbery, grab his gun while still intoxicated and justifiably shoot the BGs, and not get prosecuted??? Interesting questions....

    You might want to consult a lawyer regardless of what the SLO sheriff's office says.
    Last edited by Paladin; 01-07-2018, 1:56 PM.

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  • aaronob
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    I'm one of the many alcohol business owners in the county. I carry large sums of cash and possess high-valuable assets at my place of business (alcohol and the equipment used to make it). My business is also located in the county, not within incorporated city limits. I understand that some(?) county's CCW permits state that you cannot consume alcohol or carry in a bar. Does this expand further and prohibit me from carrying in 1) places that manufacture alcohol and/or 2) a tasting room? If so, will the sheriff just reject me (either because it's illegal or they just plain don't like the idea of it) or could I make the case that I only carry when outside of my business going to the bank and such? Does anyone have any advice for me?

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  • GregsCCW
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    I like the detailed comment by JT, and I agree with your observations about the CG CCW community, some people are wound a little too tight. So long as we do not share our specific GC or tell someone in the open forum what to include in their GC pertaining to their specific case, we should be good. I'm carrying out of Orange County and went through the GC process with them several times as I've just renewed. The Sheriff's Dept issues some examples of acceptable GC out here, and the county is pro issue, but you have to justify the permit. I'm considering moving up to San Louis County in the future, probably about 5 years from now so I'm looking at the various counties up that way and trying to get a feel for how they are with CCW. Anyhow my best to all of you and hope that you have a happy new year, that you are able to get your permits and renew them without too much of a hassle, and enjoy living in such a beautiful part of the state.

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  • ACfixer
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    Great to hear! Congrats and welcome to the club.

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  • ColdDeadHands1
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    Congrats JT. Please tell us what city you live in or if it an unincorporated area, where?

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  • bongski
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    Congratulations!

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  • jtlancer
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    I received my CCW in SLO county and it was EASY!

    1. Second week of Sept. 2017: Completed online application, submitted initial payment of $116.58 and scheduled interview appointment (first available was a month out).

    2. Next day I called Rangemaster in SLO and scheduled my CCW class. ***DO this well in advance because depending on when you call the next class could be a month out, like mine was.

    3. I week later I received an email stating that "we are processing your request for a CCW permit, in order to continue the process we will need a More Detailed Cause Statement".
    ***THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: Many on this thread seem to think that it is OK to give out BAD advice or they are AFRAID of saying too much so they limit their responses. That is both lame and stupid. I am not going to go into that any further. Now, what you NEED to do is to have a very thorough, exhaustive and well written Good Cause Statement. Listing self defense because you live in a bad area will not suffice. I would take as much time as you need to think carefully and list at LEAST 5 reasons why you need a CCW and write a brief paragraph for explaining each reason.
    ***I am not listing my Good Cause Statement here because, well, they apply to me not to you. But if you want ask my OPINION of YOUR statement then just PM me.
    After I did that and resubmitted online - the Sheriffs office had nothing more to say about my Good Cause Statement.

    4. Second week in Oct. 2017: Took and passed the CCW class (a week before my interview with the SLO Sheriffs Dept.)

    5. Third week in Oct. 2017: CCW interview and LiveScan fingerprinting at SLO County Sheriffs Dept on HWY 1. I arrived dressed business casual. The interviewer greeted me and I shook their hand. We talked about the CCW class I took and what I learned, the most important lesson being that I would ONLY use my weapon as a LAST RESORT. If I can run away then I will. We reviewed my Good Cause Statement and discussed each reason.
    Then I was asked what I would do in certain situation like, "What do you do when pulled over by the police while carrying." "Where can you NOT carry.", etc.
    That was the first 30 minutes. The last 15 minutes was spent discussing my holster, carry method, the importance of FULLY concealing your weapon and not printing or accidentally brandishing. That was it. I went home feeling confident because I had prepared BEFORE the interview on a full range of topics.

    6. Second week in Nov. 2017. Received email stating, "Your application for a Concealed Carry Weapon License has been approved. Based on the training and instruction you received as part of the permit process and the personal interview with the investigator who processed your application, I am sure you understand the responsibilities commensurate with your permit."

    7. The VERY NEXT day (LOL) I went to SLO Sheriffs Dept. to make my final payment ($95.00? Sorry I forgot the exact amount because it was cash only) and picked up my CCW!

    ***The CCW issued by the SLO County Sheriffs Dept is a simple paper card (roughly 3.25" X 4.5"). It is not durable in any way so I suggest you fold it in half and have it laminated. Just be careful where you put the crease. I folded mine exactly below where it lists my DOB, Hgt, Wgt, etc.
    I then trimmed off a tiny bit of the white space using an exacto blade and a ruler. ***Please check both sides before making a cut so that you are only cutting off unused white space.***

    Before any loud mouths here start barking that you cannot "modify" your CCW, the person at the SLO Sheriffs Office who handed me my card said that I could do so to make it fit my wallet as long as I only cut off unused white space. So just pin your lip, bub.

    So the entire process took exactly 3 months and it would have been even faster had I not written such a short Good Cause Statement on my first attempt. I blame myself for taking bad advice from some who posted on this thread and elsewhere on CG.

    Anyway, good luck to all who are going through the process. Stay safe and remember to TRAIN!
    Last edited by jtlancer; 12-24-2017, 11:18 AM.

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  • Tango-Alpha
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    Originally posted by RumT
    Yes and yes.



    With SLO Co's new online applicatoin process, I'm curious how this will go. Also, allegedly county is issuing rigid card style permits now versus the paper ones.

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  • Tango-Alpha
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    T-A, be sure to read the last 3 pages (this page included), of posts in this thread. That should give you a good idea of what's gone on/changed in SLO Co. SO re. CCWs.



    Be sure to let us know at the end (after approval/denial) how things went.

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  • RumT
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    Yes and yes.

    With SLO Co's new online applicatoin process, I'm curious how this will go. Also, allegedly county is issuing rigid card style permits now versus the paper ones.

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  • Paladin
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    T-A, be sure to read the last 3 pages (this page included), of posts in this thread. That should give you a good idea of what's gone on/changed in SLO Co. SO re. CCWs.

    Be sure to let us know at the end (after approval/denial) how things went.

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  • Tango-Alpha
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    San Luis Obispo

    Originally posted by skyscraper
    Your chances are MUCH higher with SLO Sheriff than with AGPD. I live in a city nearby you, and had to be denied by the Chief first, before going to the Sheriff and being granted my CCW. As far as I have heard, AGPD does not issue very many CCW's. You lucked out.

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  • skyscraper
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    Your chances are MUCH higher with SLO Sheriff than with AGPD. I live in a city nearby you, and had to be denied by the Chief first, before going to the Sheriff and being granted my CCW. As far as I have heard, AGPD does not issue very many CCW's. You lucked out.

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