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  • lawaia
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 2083

    Originally posted by inbox485
    There is at least one rejection posted on this thread alone. If I'm wrong, nobody will be happier than I, but I'm not seeing it.

    You say PP is no go, but that it doesn't need be buisness, or based on past incidences. Where is the middle ground between the two. I've looked and I've found absolutely zero indication that an average guy that works a 9-5 and doesn't have any special circumstances can get a CCW in riverside county.
    If you are referring to cindynles as the denial, why don't you ask him/her (sorry) what their GC was. Then tell me what you think about the denial. I'm not saying they should not have an LTC, but given the current climate you need to give a halfway convincing argument as to why you need one.

    The indication of a normal guy getting an LTC can be found in my RivCo poll thread in the LTC forum.

    As for middle ground, that would be giving substantive things in your daily life that may put you at risk. You have to substantiate what you need "personal protection" from. The advice that has been given by the RCSO CCW deputies is to list ALL of the reasons you have. Just think about activities, areas you frequent, stuff you tote around, or anything that would make you a desirable target for a bad guy.

    Or you can wait until CGF has the GC statements released from RCSO. By all indication, it shouldn't be too much longer. Your choice.

    Here's the thing. No one is going to hold your hand and guide you to the water. If you want the LTC bad enough, you will put the effort into it and get one. RivCo is possible. I think you know that by now. You have to be willing to put in the work to get it. Sorry, but that is the harsh reality of the current situation.

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    • inbox485
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 3677

      Originally posted by lawaia
      If you are referring to cindynles as the denial, why don't you ask him/her (sorry) what their GC was. Then tell me what you think about the denial. I'm not saying they should not have an LTC, but given the current climate you need to give a halfway convincing argument as to why you need one.

      The indication of a normal guy getting an LTC can be found in my RivCo poll thread in the LTC forum.

      As for middle ground, that would be giving substantive things in your daily life that may put you at risk. You have to substantiate what you need "personal protection" from. The advice that has been given by the RCSO CCW deputies is to list ALL of the reasons you have. Just think about activities, areas you frequent, stuff you tote around, or anything that would make you a desirable target for a bad guy.

      Or you can wait until CGF has the GC statements released from RCSO. By all indication, it shouldn't be too much longer. Your choice.

      Here's the thing. No one is going to hold your hand and guide you to the water. If you want the LTC bad enough, you will put the effort into it and get one. RivCo is possible. I think you know that by now. You have to be willing to put in the work to get it. Sorry, but that is the harsh reality of the current situation.
      He said he wanted the permit to be able to carry to not worry about coyotes and mountain lions.

      I'll be very curious as to the GC statements when they become available. As to your thread, perhaps you are talented at looking into the tea leaves, but I'm not seeing anybody say "I'm a normal guy and got approved." I can think of plenty of circumstances where RCS would issue, but I really doubt "just in case when I go to walmart" or "I go to ranges a handful of times a year" would fly. I have also spoken verbally to people that were denied for using the "frequent range visitor" bit. If I thought there were reasonable odds of getting a permit, I'd get one. I don't however have the $ to piss away when I have no reason to believe it will go anywhere.
      Up for rent...

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      • lawaia
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 2083

        Originally posted by inbox485
        He said he wanted the permit to be able to carry to not worry about coyotes and mountain lions.

        Do you reasonably expect the RCSO to accept that in this current climate?

        I'll be very curious as to the GC statements when they become available. As to your thread, perhaps you are talented at looking into the tea leaves, but I'm not seeing anybody say "I'm a normal guy and got approved."

        Sorry, there was a post by someone in one of my threads about being a "normal guy" that got his permit. I though it was in that other thread, and I'm remiss in finding it right now.

        I can think of plenty of circumstances where RCS would issue, but I really doubt "just in case when I go to walmart" or "I go to ranges a handful of times a year" would fly. I have also spoken verbally to people that were denied for using the "frequent range visitor" bit. If I thought there were reasonable odds of getting a permit, I'd get one. I don't however have the $ to piss away when I have no reason to believe it will go anywhere.

        If you don't think it will go anywhere, you are probably wise to wait. If you really want the LTC, put some genuine effort into a GC statement.
        Responses in bold.

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        • lawaia
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 2083

          Just another positive reinforcement!



          The CCW process in Riverside County is VERY fair. Sheriff Sniff is a big fan of the 2nd Amendment, a cowboy shooter and believes that law abiding citizens should be able to carry. His definition of good cause is totally reasonable. The Deputies in the CCW unit are great to work with. Don't be put off by the language of the CCW application. ...I wasn't, and I just got my permit....very happy.

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          • cindynles
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2806

            Originally posted by lawaia
            If you are referring to cindynles as the denial, why don't you ask him/her (sorry) what their GC was.
            Him
            "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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            • lawaia
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 2083

              Originally posted by cindynles
              Him
              Sorry.

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              • hiltoncp
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 2

                Indio PD Denial Time

                Originally posted by Dtt255
                Long time lurker,

                I am 3 weeks into waiting for my CCW form Riverside County.

                They were very nice to me there and actually called me and had me revise my GC because although THEY knew what I did for a living and WHY I wanted a CCW...they didn't feel I expressed it correctly in my GC. So they asked me to revise it a bit.
                I felt that was very decent of them.....

                So I am 3 week in from handing it in originally, and 1 week from when I sent them the revised GC. I can only assume they didn't send it in to admin until the got the new GC.

                Everytime the phone rings I jump....lol

                I just wonder...do I get a call or a letter? Is the approval a letter or a call?

                I know a denial is a letter, got one from Indio PD.

                Thanks!
                Dtt255, How long did it take for Indio PD to issue you the denial letter?
                I live in Indio also.

                Thanks (in advance) for taking the time to reply.

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                • FERGUSON
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 250

                  WELL ANY NEWS OF THE GOOD CAUSE FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY

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                  • lawaia
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2083

                    Originally posted by FERGUSON
                    WELL ANY NEWS OF THE GOOD CAUSE FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY
                    I emailed Brandon yesterday, and he is still waiting to hear from Riverside. Said he expects something soon.

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                    • Hakoomay
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 647

                      Any new news???

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                      • covertcombatant
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1309

                        Any updates? I Really want to apply.

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                        • lawaia
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2083

                          Originally posted by covertcombatant
                          Any updates? I Really want to apply.
                          Don't expect them to ever be handed out like candy. If you really want one, get in the game and start the process. There are plenty of people here willing to offer advice and help if you are serious about it.

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                          • hawk1
                            In Memoriam
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 7555

                            Originally posted by covertcombatant
                            Any updates? I Really want to apply.
                            Originally posted by lawaia
                            Don't expect them to ever be handed out like candy. If you really want one, get in the game and start the process. There are plenty of people here willing to offer advice and help if you are serious about it.
                            Updates for Riverside County are now supposed to be considered candy? He wasn't asking for a CCW free pass.
                            This forum is here for exactly that, information.
                            Last edited by hawk1; 11-11-2011, 9:51 AM. Reason: Edited out unnecessary comments
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                            • lawaia
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2083

                              Originally posted by hawk1
                              Updates for Riverside County are now supposed to be considered candy? He wasn't asking for a CCW free pass.
                              Please get off your high horse. This forum is here for exactly that, information.

                              If you have nothing to offer then stfu.
                              Hmmmm. OK. I thought I just extended my hand. I meant ltc's won't be handed out like candy, not the information. No high horse here. I guess I just have nothing to offer.
                              Last edited by lawaia; 11-10-2011, 9:58 PM.

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                              • hawk1
                                In Memoriam
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 7555

                                The forum was set up for "Information on how to get a LTC in your County".
                                He was only asking for updates and I assume it was updates as to CGF handling/posting of Riverside County good cause statements.
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