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  • obeygiant
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    • Oct 2007
    • 4167

    Marin

    UPDATE: the Marin sheriff attempted to intervene to appeal the ruling of the 3-judge panel in Peruta:


    Anyone who gets denied in Marin Co (either by a city's PD or by the Sheriff's Office), and wants to fight it should read the following quote from my ("Paladin") post in the Monterey Co thread. (There they accept SD as GC, but push the GMC requirement.) The 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies to ALL aspects of the application process, not just GC and GMC.

    Originally posted by Paladin
    So, they say SD = GC, but then push GMC through the roof and, it appears, make your RKBA subject to your neighbors', co-workers' and friends' ratification....

    If Bernal does NOT follow this same procedure with ALL CCW applicants (think political donors, "friends of the sheriff"/"posse" members, politicians, celebrities), he's open for a Guillory-type 14th A Equal Protection federal lawsuit, but for GMC rather than GC.

    Hypothetically, let's say there's a world-famous film star (and director) who lives in (and was once the mayor of) Carmel-By-The-Sea, a city which, acc to CGF's 2013 survey, does not issue CCWs. We'll call him "Mr. E." Let's suppose Mr. E has a Monterey SO CCW. When it is/was time to renew, if the sheriff has the same policy for renewals that means his "background investigator" would have to go to Mr. E's neighbors (who, unlike his friends, may be hard-core antis), and "ask them if they would recommend [Mr. E] be issued a CCW permit." Not only would the same procedure have to be followed, but the same standard as to judging whether to issue or not be followed. IOW, let's say 1 of your neighbors says "Nyet!" when asked if you should get a CCW and because of that you are denied. If 1 of Mr. E's neighbors also said "No!" and yet was issued, that too is a 14th A Equal Protection violation.
    Last edited by Paladin; 07-09-2015, 8:20 AM. Reason: deleted dead link
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    putput
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 775

    Marin Specific PDF From Calguns Foundation

    Here

    States "contact with applicant's family, relatives, friends, associates and employer."

    PutPut is now immortal.
    Last edited by putput; 10-18-2010, 9:16 PM.
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      fairfaxjim
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      • Apr 2006
      • 2146

      Local CCW Policy, Guidelines & Forms:

      .pdf will not open.

      Thanks.
      "As soon as we burn 'em," Chinn said, "more come in."
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        obeygiant
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        • Oct 2007
        • 4167

        Originally posted by fairfaxjim
        Local CCW Policy, Guidelines & Forms:

        .pdf will not open.

        Thanks.
        The link has been fixed, try and download it again. Post back in here and let me know if it works for you now.
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        • #5
          fairfaxjim
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          • Apr 2006
          • 2146

          Originally posted by obeygiant
          The link has been fixed, try and download it again. Post back in here and let me know if it works for you now.
          I can downlaod and save it, it comes up with an encryption error when trying to open in a web browser window.
          "As soon as we burn 'em," Chinn said, "more come in."
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          • #6
            obeygiant
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            • Oct 2007
            • 4167

            Marin GC statements are available Here
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            • #7
              Purple K
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              • Dec 2008
              • 3101

              "carries large amounts of cash in shady neighborhood" Hmmmm, I thought we were supposed to just hire an armored car service. LOL!
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              • #8
                CalBear
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                • Aug 2010
                • 4279

                Originally posted by obeygiant
                Marin GC statements are available Here
                That's a whole lot of cash, gems, retired _____, gang death threats and prosecutors.

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                • #9
                  CalBear
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 4279

                  Originally posted by Purple K
                  "carries large amounts of cash in shady neighborhood" Hmmmm, I thought we were supposed to just hire an armored car service. LOL!
                  Clearly the path to a CCW in Marin is to withdraw your entire life savings every evening, drive around shady parts of town, and deposit it the next morning.

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                  • #10
                    Paladin
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                    • Dec 2005
                    • 12387

                    Originally posted by CalBear
                    Clearly the path to a CCW in Marin is to withdraw your entire life savings every evening, drive around shady parts of town, and deposit it the next morning.
                    My *guess* w/a lot of anti Bay Area counties is if a buddy/financial supporter of a sheriff makes the claim of having to carry large amounts of cash due to their job, the sheriff accepts it and issues a CCW.

                    If Joe Average makes that claim, the sheriff requires proof of the claim, investigates it, and if the claim is true, tells Joe to require direct deposits from customers or other work around (armor car service), and doesn't issue a CCW.
                    Last edited by Paladin; 12-09-2010, 9:22 AM.
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                    • #11
                      putput
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 775

                      There it is. About the 10th page.

                      "I am requesting a license to carry a concealed weapon based primarily on personal safety and self-defense grounds and for the security and welfare of my family."
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                      • #12
                        sfpcservice
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1879

                        Originally posted by putput
                        There it is. About the 10th page.

                        "I am requesting a license to carry a concealed weapon based primarily on personal safety and self-defense grounds and for the security and welfare of my family."
                        Snap! Has a calgunner applied using "self protection" to this county?
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                        • #13
                          putput
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 775

                          I think we're waiting for the green light. I'm guessing that this will take some litigation. I hope not but, we'll see...



                          Originally posted by sfpcservice
                          Snap! Has a calgunner applied using "self protection" to this county?
                          "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
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                          • #14
                            wildhawker
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14150

                            Keep your powder dry and remain patient...
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                            My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              Blackhawk556
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                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4182

                              Originally posted by putput
                              There it is. About the 10th page.

                              "I am requesting a license to carry a concealed weapon based primarily on personal safety and self-defense grounds and for the security and welfare of my family."
                              i think you are wrong.

                              he is a deputy district attorney so he gets special treatment, you don't.
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