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  • unusedusername
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4124

    Originally posted by VL221


    I used the live scan form Sheriff sent me. But Pack and Mail live scan machine was down for 3 weeks and I didn't want to wait any longer so I went to a local UPS store on the list that they suggested.

    What should I do now?
    It isn't worth trying to "fix" a livescan once sent. It will be more work to fix it than just starting a new one. Let the Sheriffs Deputy know what is going on before starting a second one.

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    • evdrip
      Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 231

      Originally posted by VL221


      I used the live scan form Sheriff sent me. But Pack and Mail live scan machine was down for 3 weeks and I didn't want to wait any longer so I went to a local UPS store on the list that they suggested.

      What should I do now?
      I would reach out to the Sheriff's Office. Explain that you are not seeing FBI or Firearms when checking your live scan status on the DOJ website and see if they can check on their end to see if they happened to receive FBI and Firearms (pretty low chance, but worth a shot I guess). If not, you should ask them how they want you to remedy the situation. Chances are you will either have to resubmit the live scan at that UPS Store or submit a new one at Pack and Mail. But the SO should have better info for you.

      Good luck! Let us know how it pans out.

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      • Bnzfixr
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2022
        • 15

        Update 11/18:
        SMSO are on CCW application #260.
        I am #414 in line.
        I applied (livescan) on 7/18.
        DOJ finished all checks on 8/12.

        *I was told by SO that the process takes
        about 6 months. In my case that looks
        to be an accurate summation.
        Last edited by Bnzfixr; 11-19-2022, 9:02 AM. Reason: Added info
        This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.
        Elmer Davis- WWII

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        • Chris1
          Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 126

          Originally posted by Bnzfixr
          Update: they SMSO is on ccw application 260.
          Me: 414

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          • Bnzfixr
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2022
            • 15

            You will need your receipt from livescan showing
            your ATI number
            Get your DOJ Livescan application results at:

            All 3 DOJ checks need to be completed
            Then call the SMSO for your placement/position in line
            Last edited by Bnzfixr; 11-19-2022, 9:04 AM. Reason: Added info
            This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.
            Elmer Davis- WWII

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            • tr/328
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 203

              I emailed the County and was told I'm #371 in line. I'm getting closer. Hopefully they are moving faster.

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              • gmcenroe
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 23

                Request for reason delay of Firearms check from CA DOJ

                Originally posted by evdrip
                Maybe. I would contact DOJ Applicant Information Services via email at Applicantinfoservices@doj.ca.gov

                Meanwhile, you can read up on information in the following webpages and see if you fall into any categories that would delay your live scan.

                The California Department of Justice (DOJ) provides an automated service for criminal history background checks that may be required as a condition of employment, licensing, certification, foreign adoptions or VISA/Immigration purposes. During the 2014 calendar year, the DOJ processed more than 2.1 million applicant fingerprint transactions. Eighty percent of the electronically submitted fingerprint checks are completed within three business days. Here is basic information for individuals needing to submit fingerprints to the DOJ for background checks.

                https://oag.ca.gov/fingerprints
                Thank you for the email address for my inquiry for the Firearms delay. I sent them an email. Hopefully I will get a response soon. I admit that I am not very optimistic about a response, but it is worth a try.

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                • aegisol
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 80

                  What would also be helpful is if people put what day they applied.

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                  • SandHill
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 2205

                    Saber Tactics CCW Class

                    Took the Saber Tactics CCW class and did the qualification with them this morning. Really great class. Nick and his crew are very profesional and I highly reommend them.

                    One pro-tip for anyone qualifying in SM County: You do have to draw from concelament. This was contrary to info previously posted on this thread. You can use an OWB holster, but you need a cover garment over it. Not a big deal, but something to take into consideration for your load out and your clothes for the qualificaiton. Also, it's pretty cold on the range this time of year, so dress accordingly.

                    Otherwise, the test was as previously reported here and was not hard. Everyone passed. There will be more CCW permits in SMC soon!
                    Pooty Poot, you sure screwed the pooch this time! - Ghost of Roza Shanina, WWII Soviet Sniper

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                    • sabertactics
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2022
                      • 77

                      Originally posted by SandHill
                      Took the Saber Tactics CCW class and did the qualification with them this morning. Really great class. Nick and his crew are very profesional and I highly reommend them.

                      One pro-tip for anyone qualifying in SM County: You do have to draw from concelament. This was contrary to info previously posted on this thread. You can use an OWB holster, but you need a cover garment over it. Not a big deal, but something to take into consideration for your load out and your clothes for the qualificaiton. Also, it's pretty cold on the range this time of year, so dress accordingly.

                      Otherwise, the test was as previously reported here and was not hard. Everyone passed. There will be more CCW permits in SMC soon!
                      It was great having you in class today. Thank you for pointing that out - yes, we do draw from the holster which is a requirement from the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office, and we do highly recommended having an IWB holster versus an OWB, although if that's all you have, we'll accept it. Also, definitely a good idea to wear something over your holster to get some practice clearing your clothing and drawing from concealment.
                      Saber Tactics

                      Premier Training for Firearms and Defensive Protection

                      http://www.sabertactics.com

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                      • db556762
                        Member
                        • Jul 2022
                        • 132

                        That class from Saber today was great and Nick and his assistants were just as Sandhill described.

                        Come ready to ask any questions that you may have from the online portion. First part of class is Q&A.

                        The SMC qual test requires 36 shots shot at 5, 7 and 10 yards. 12 shots at each distance and broken out into two strings of 6 shots. Ex, at 5 yards, you load and make ready, reholster, beep goes off and you have unlimited time to shoot a string of 6 shots. Reload and then reholster after you shoot your six shots and be ready for the next 6. It is up to the person testing to control and remember to shoot exactly 6 shots each time. If you shoot 7, you're disqualified. This is a listening to instructions requirement from SMSO.

                        Easiest way to control the count of each string is to load your magazines to 6 rounds total and then have 6 magazines loaded. If you have less than 6 magazines, you will have to reload while standing at the shooting lines from loose rounds from your pockets. That is not as practical, but some people did that.

                        Also, you have to get 30 of 36 shots in the target area. The area is defined by the silhouette. I'll upload a photo if I figure out how to do that here.

                        For the class, there will be dry fire training and live ammo shooting practice with one of your guns. Bring extra ammo for that training session for that gun. You can then have the 36 rounds per handgun to qual with. Save time and preload your mags in 6s. Having an easy on and off holster is great for switching between handguns.

                        When the fans turn on the indoor range at Coyote point gets cold from the outside cold air (if winter time). Long sleeves recommend if you don't want to wear a jacket while shooting and dealing with that as your concealment garment.

                        You will also be standing for 4 hours straight, so be prepared for that. No breaks given, either, as the class is crammed with teaching and activities to get our time's worth out of it.

                        People at the class said that SMSO looks to be processing the 260th person in line as of last week.
                        Last edited by db556762; 11-19-2022, 2:43 PM.

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                        • magtuck
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2021
                          • 9

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                          • Djantlive
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 612

                            I took the Gun Kraft course and qualification today. It was a very thorough and thoughtful training. Qualification did not require holstering and we were trained using airsoft guns on drawing exercises. A variety of scenarios covering legal, safety, psychological and tactical aspects were enlightening.

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                            • ronlglock
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2011
                              • 2670

                              BayProfs will start approved classes in January at Coyote Point range using USCCA and NRA material.

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                              NRA/USCCA/DOJ instructor, NRA CRSO, Journalist

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                              • NorCalBusa
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1497

                                While I think instructors (contracted) are a great solution and they need to run their class as they see fit- seems odd we have one that requires holster use to pass and another that does not, since the Esso has jammed their view of criteria into the process.
                                If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there

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