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I agree 100%. There are over 100,000 active CCWs in California at this moment. Most of them are in counties that have huge white populations and few minorities.These associated fees with the CCW process here in Alameda County are racist and oppressive. Basically they are saying if you are poor and disadvantaged, despite being a law-abiding citizen you don't have the right to applying for a CCW. I find this most interesting given that the law-abiding citizens of color who do live in underprivileged areas are arguably the ones most in need of being able to protect themselves.
It's very difficult to get one if you are in a county with a lot of minorities.
The fact that the media loves to talk about issues of equity, but not this issue of equity is sadly laughable.Last edited by Ron Jeremey; 10-16-2022, 12:17 PM.Leave a comment:
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The rich stay rich and protected while the poor stay poor and defenselessThese associated fees with the CCW process here in Alameda County are racist and oppressive. Basically they are saying if you are poor and disadvantaged, despite being a law-abiding citizen you don't have the right to applying for a CCW. I find this most interesting given that the law-abiding citizens of color who do live in underprivileged areas are arguably the ones most in need of being able to protect themselves.
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These associated fees with the CCW process here in Alameda County are racist and oppressive. Basically they are saying if you are poor and disadvantaged, despite being a law-abiding citizen you don't have the right to applying for a CCW. I find this most interesting given that the law-abiding citizens of color who do live in underprivileged areas are arguably the ones most in need of being able to protect themselves.Leave a comment:
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Next you'll start adding dollar amounts to your time spent here in this thread as costs incurred toward your CCW.Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 10-14-2022, 3:11 PM.Leave a comment:
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You put too much thought and opinion into it I just put up accounting and numbers all that other judge Judy talk stuff is irrelevant.Leave a comment:
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You would/should carry CCW insurance no matter what state/county/jurisdiction you live in, and it's not something they are forcing you to have and that is a personal choice that should not be factored into your estimate.I did the math a long time ago I added the insurance because in CA you will lose everything without it. Maybe the livescan is wrong but I went off everyone in the state and my FFL was $130+. I put the big picture in it with not too much thought. A quick story my millionaire friend Shepard bit the mailman's barely broke skin cost $15K and home insurance dropped him for not having Puppy insurance as example you could lose your insurance or your home or freedom.
2-Year Resident $195
Live Scan $110 - $165
Firearm Course $250 - $400
Psychological $150
Range Quals $50
CCW Insurance $200-$350
(4 Trips of Travel+ Time)
Interview Livescan Quals Pickup= Fuel+ Ammo + Range time $50 - $100
Total Estimate $1005 to $1410
Again, I'm not saying the associated costs are valid and I do believe it's part of ACSO's plan to deter many from applying, but adding in all the extra fees and whatnot is a bit disingenuous. I had to go to Livescan for work earlier this year and it was $79. . Travel time, ammo needed for class, the range qual, etc. is moot, IMO.
Sounds like you're just trying to pad your earlier estimate to validate your claims.
Regardless, only you can decide if it's worth it to you. In your case it sounds like it might not be given all the extra time, ammo and cost associated with the process. Nothing wrong with that if that's your decision.Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 10-14-2022, 2:41 PM.Leave a comment:
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I did the math a long time ago I added the insurance because in CA you will lose everything without it. Maybe the livescan is wrong but I went off everyone in the state and my FFL was $130+. I put the big picture in it with not too much thought. A quick story my millionaire friend Shepard bit the mailman's barely broke skin cost $15K and home insurance dropped him for not having Puppy insurance as example you could lose your insurance or your home or freedom.
2-Year Resident $195
Live Scan $110 - $165
Firearm Course $250 - $400
Psychological $150
Range Quals $50
CCW Insurance $200-$350
(4 Trips of Travel+ Time)
Interview Livescan Quals Pickup= Fuel+ Ammo + Range time $50 - $100
Total Estimate $1005 to $1410Last edited by AWE; 10-14-2022, 12:41 PM.Leave a comment:
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Over $1k? How do you figure? Not saying it's cheap, but if you're making a statement you should be factual.
Application: $195
Psych Eval: $150
Livescan: $79
Qualification Fee: $50
Total: $474 plus whatever the cost is of whatever CCW class you end up taking.
I'm not saying these fees are reasonable because they are not, and it is absurd. I have already received my Utah and Arizona CCW and those were something like $64 for Utah and $60 for Arizona plus the cost of fingerprint cards I had to send in with the applications to each state respectively. The 16-hour CCW class I took to satisfy (actually exceed) the Alameda County requirement also allowed me to apply for non-resident permits in UT and AZ. Around $60 for each state compared to the $474 for California and arduous process is absurd.Leave a comment:
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Received my email this afternoon to go in and get fingerprinted and proceed to Livescan with a list of all the other requirements and prices moving forward. $150 for the psych evaluation and $50 for the range qualification in addition to the fee for Livescan and the CCW permit fee. This is a racket.Leave a comment:
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I did some homework. CCWSAFE wins.Here is the latest info for myself on the Alameda County CCW process.
Just received a call to schedule my interview.
Recap:
1: Application Submission - 6/25/2022. - late in the evening
2: Interview - 10/25/2022
3: Livescan - TBD
4: CCW Training - 16hr on Aug. 21st & 22nd
5: Psych Eval - TBD
6: ASCO Qualification - TBD
7: CCW Issuance - TBD
Interview is 4 months from application date.
And yes I emailed pics of my safe. I know, but...... They asked specifically about that.
Anybody here considering insurance if you ever got a CCW or even for a home defense situation? Anyone have any experience using any of the companies that are around?Leave a comment:
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