Alameda

[Vinnie Boombatz]

Thanks V-Boom.

I forgot to mention they asked about how many long guns, shotguns and hand guns I had and if I could supply them with serial numbers.

They asked me that as well during my interview. I had a list on my phone of my firearms in case they asked me a question like that, which they did. Like you, they also asked if I would be able to provide serial numbers if asked at a later date, but so far have not followed up on that and asked for that information.

[Gryff]

They noted that was not a requirement any more but still asked to help the person who grants the permits to decide on issuing.

Uh...what the F?

I forgot to mention they asked about how many long guns, shotguns and hand guns I had and if I could supply them with serial numbers.

Uh...again...what the F? How in any way is that relevant to carrying a firearm?

I don't want to shoot myself in the foot in my application process, but there is no way I am going on the record as being willing to provide serial numbers for any of my guns that are not going to be on the permit. I'm happy to confirm that I have serial numbers recorded should anything be stolen, but I'm never turning over that information just because law enforcement wants to know what I own.

[NorCalBusa]

They asked me that as well during my interview. I had a list on my phone of my firearms in case they asked me a question like that, which they did. Like you, they also asked if I would be able to provide serial numbers if asked at a later date, but so far have not followed up on that and asked for that information.

If it is not going on the CCW, what business of thier's is that?

[Vinnie Boombatz]

If it is not going on the CCW, what business of thier's is that?

Why are you asking me? I didn't ask or create the question. I am just relaying my experience and what I was asked in my interview.

[NorCalBusa]

Why are you asking me? I didn't ask or create the question. I am just relaying my experience and what I was asked in my interview.

You were in the room, I was not.

Don't take the question personally (but I get it can be a stressful process), it's just aggravating to have the Supreme's make their position crystal clear- and the interviewer goes wading into other waters because he knows candidates won't challenge him.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

You were in the room, I was not.

Don't take the question personally (but I get it can be a stressful process), it's just aggravating to have the Supreme's make their position crystal clear- and the interviewer goes wading into other waters because he knows candidates won't challenge him.

I ws in the room, but again I was being asked the questions. I wasn't the one who came up with the questions. And the interviewer most likely wasn't the person who came up with the questions either and was probably given a list of questions and protocols to follow when conducting the interviews by a superior so it would be best not to argue or get defensive with them during your interview.

I'd recommend just going in and answering the questions asked and give no additional information. If you have issue with the questions being asked during the interview is not the time or place to question or argue with the interviewer, and if you truly believe that your rights are being violated or the questions being asked aren't appropriate you should contact an attorney afterward and bring your concerns up to them.

[SilveradoColt21]

I applied on August 2. So next week it will have been 3 months. My tracker says "assigning to processor shortly"

What are others with applications in July or August seeing? I have heard nothing since I applied.

I applied at the end of August and am seeing the same thing as you, I was told I was # 1,000 something in the queue, which essentially means that they are not going to be able to grant my interview until mid to late 2023 .

[gexpro]

I also had my interview today. The deputy was very polite, professional and answered any questions I had.

As mentioned above from the other guys. She had a separate questionnaire from the application asking about who lives in the residence, age and what relationship they have to you.

Everything went very good. They had already done a basic background check with local agencies who do not require a signed form for information on you. At the end of the interview I had to sign a separate form for consent to do a more thorough background check.

note - the deputy specifically told me you only need an 8 hour ccw training class as of now. I know this question has popped up recently on 16 hour class requirements, however that is not the case from what she has told me.

[rhodesengr]

I applied at the end of August and am seeing the same thing as you, I was told I was # 1,000 something in the queue, which essentially means that they are not going to be able to grant my interview until mid to late 2023 .

well thanks for that info. It does help me get a feel for the timing. I am not really desperate for the dang permit. It was more of "ok lets see if I can actually get one now after Bruen". My Utah permit came in a few weeks ago. No word on the Arizona one.

[SilveradoColt21]

note - the deputy specifically told me you only need an 8 hour ccw training class as of now. I know this question has popped up recently on 16 hour class requirements, however that is not the case from what she has told me.

There it is then, straight from the horse's mouth, thank you for that. No more he said/she said it is 8 hours then as of now.

[cz74]

If I ever get to the interview stage and they ask me for complete list of serial numbers, I would ask them instead this: "I will provide my list and you provide list of my complete DROS and let's cross-reference each other"

[rhodesengr]

There it is then, straight from the horse's mouth, thank you for that. No more he said/she said it is 8 hours then as of now.

I have mentioned this before but there are important differences between the and 8 and 16 hour class, at least how they do it at Guns & Stuff in Dublin.

The 16 hour class includes substantial training on holster use. The qualifying shoot we have to do is based on holster draw. I had never used a holster before and in fact holsters at not allowed at the range where I mostly shoot. The 16 hour class also includes a simulated qualifying shoot; 50 timed shots at different distances. The 16 hour class also includes the application materials and help with applying by mail for Utah and Arizona. None of that is included in the 8 hour class. We also had a section on clearing different kinds of jams. Not sure if that is in the 8 hour class. Probably not.

I am quite happy I took the 16 hour class even if the 8 hour one would have been technically sufficient.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

I have mentioned this before but there are important differences between the and 8 and 16 hour class, at least how they do it at Guns & Stuff in Dublin.

The 16 hour class includes substantial training on holster use. The qualifying shoot we have to do is based on holster draw. I had never used a holster before and in fact holsters at not allowed at the range where I mostly shoot. The 16 hour class also includes a simulated qualifying shoot; 50 timed shots at different distances. The 16 hour class also includes the application materials and help with applying by mail for Utah and Arizona. None of that is included in the 8 hour class. We also had a section on clearing different kinds of jams. Not sure if that is in the 8 hour class. Probably not.

I am quite happy I took the 16 hour class even if the 8 hour one would have been technically sufficient.

I agree with everything you said. I took the same 16-hour class. I already had experience clearing all the malfunctions, am very comfortable presenting from the holster with concealment, etc., but was shocked at how many in the class were doing all of this for the first time and had trouble with a lot of it.

The range near me also doesn't allow presentation from the holster, but you can still dry practice at home. Go slow and rally nit-pick yourself. If you can, watch yourself in a mirror and break it down step by step, and once you get each step down start to connect them all together and speed things up a bit until you're at the point where it's done unconsciously. You can also practice your trigger control at home, and then you can start putting it all together. Present from the holster, point in, get your finger not he trigger, take up the slack and give a nice, smooth dry press.

Same with clearing the malfunctions. Get some snap caps and practice them at home. You'll be surprised how much you improve without having to go to the range and without having to use live ammo.

[Solven]

I agree with everything you said. I took the same 16-hour class. I already had experience clearing all the malfunctions, am very comfortable presenting from the holster with concealment, etc., but was shocked at how many in the class were doing all of this for the first time and had trouble with a lot of it.

The range near me also doesn't allow presentation from the holster, but you can still dry practice at home. Go slow and rally nit-pick yourself. If you can, watch yourself in a mirror and break it down step by step, and once you get each step down start to connect them all together and speed things up a bit until you're at the point where it's done unconsciously. You can also practice your trigger control at home, and then you can start putting it all together. Present from the holster, point in, get your finger not he trigger, take up the slack and give a nice, smooth dry press.

Same with clearing the malfunctions. Get some snap caps and practice them at home. You'll be surprised how much you improve without having to go to the range and without having to use live ammo.

Note on the dry firing: Instead of snap caps, I have Pink Rhino laser cartridges that sit in the barrel of my gun at home. That way when I present from concealment, I can actually dry fire the weapon while aiming at a target and seeing how accurate I was with the shot. Great pro tip for folks practicing at home that can't make it to the range quite often. I've even zeroed my optic this way at home at 10yds.

[theshawnch]

An update from someone who just finished the process:

- Applied: 10/14/21
- Interview: 11/10/21
- Approved: 03/02/22
- Livescan: 03/15/22
- Livescan approved: 06/04/22
- Psych Eval start: 06/28/22
- Psych eval finish: 08/26/22
- CCW training: 09/29/22 (yes, they required a 16 hour class)
- Range qualification: 10/10/22
- Card issued: 10/26/22

I’ll also add, every deputy and IA person I’ve worked with along the process has been polite, helpful, and generally pro-CCW. The decisions from the top might not be the same, but the people working in the system see us as the good guys and are not against us.