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  • #31
    FNGGlock
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 1289

    Last edited by FNGGlock; 04-22-2022, 11:40 PM.

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    • #32
      corrmica01
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 14

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      • #33
        BusBoy
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 677

        Originally posted by macbolan
        I'm not sure of the mechanics or business/legal feasibility of this but could USI be converted to a Non-Profit operation?
        USI is a 501c4... Not a 501c3
        kcbrown -- The Constitution is not "the Supreme Law of the Land, except in the face of contradicting law which has not yet been overturned by the courts". It is THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, PERIOD. Consider very carefully what that means for your oath to uphold the Constitution.

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        • #34
          corrmica01
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2021
          • 14

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          • #35
            BusBoy
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 677

            Diablo is looking into getting that data. We shall see what that is... I will also look into posting other data that another member has collected. Pretty eye opening.
            kcbrown -- The Constitution is not "the Supreme Law of the Land, except in the face of contradicting law which has not yet been overturned by the courts". It is THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, PERIOD. Consider very carefully what that means for your oath to uphold the Constitution.

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            • #36
              BusBoy
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 677

              Originally posted by corrmica01
              Also, the employees are amazing and incredibly helpful but I have never understood why you need so may of them.
              Because of some out of whack ratio I think... Regardless management should have known better... people standing around doing nothing is money wasted.

              have always assumed that the laws here dictate a specific ratio but having multiple people waiting for someone to use the range is a bad business model.
              Very correct.

              It also states that Diablo has been asking for an audit.. if no audit has happened with such a large organization then they have a much larger issue and maybe a restructuring of USI internal process would be a better first step instead of dumping costs onto the consumers.
              Good observation... Diablo wanted a committee (audit) spun up but in reality a strategic business planning committee is a better use of time. People coming together to pitch ideas. Problem... USIs current leadership has gotten us to this point and they think that this new "discount fee" is going to solve all problems. It wont come close.

              I was planning on coming back once I am done healing stroke a few months ago but it sounds like it has become just another organization raising prices without trying to correct systemic behavior that is still going to be an issue. I went to the range 5x a week some weeks. This is very disappointing.
              I hope you recover from your stroke... I can identify a little.

              USI is asking the board to trust that it has things in control but this problem has been ongoing for MONTHS and MONTHS. They were warned every month that there was a loss... yet did nothing. Now USI is at a point where... "We have no choice" charge more, demand more, attempt to control more. Certain board members have sat back and done nothing. In effect violating their fiduciary responsibility to their members and other clubs. Breach of Fiduciary responsibility is something you are personally liable for and something that many folks in non-profits don't fully comprehend that responsibility.
              kcbrown -- The Constitution is not "the Supreme Law of the Land, except in the face of contradicting law which has not yet been overturned by the courts". It is THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, PERIOD. Consider very carefully what that means for your oath to uphold the Constitution.

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              • #37
                BusBoy
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 677

                Do you have business experience?? Audit?? CPA?? sit on other board or deal with non-profits?

                Let Diablo know!! Coming together to solve the issues facing USI is needed. Just raising fees and hoping for the best is not a true business plan.

                USI needs to identify the hemorrhaging of its cash and where it is FIRST and then STOP it from leaving in wheelbarrow fulls . Then once that is accomplished ask clubs for money. Here USI is hoping for the best. Doing no real planning but expecting buckets full of new cash revenues.
                kcbrown -- The Constitution is not "the Supreme Law of the Land, except in the face of contradicting law which has not yet been overturned by the courts". It is THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, PERIOD. Consider very carefully what that means for your oath to uphold the Constitution.

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                • #38
                  yoteassasin
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2574

                  THE PROBLEM IS THE PRESIDENT OF USI not the other clubs This is the same clown show of immediately shutting down the rifle range with no comprehensive study . the same years of delays and BS updates , the same Incessant cost overruns. The people in charge are frauds and charlatans and just because some of you are friendly with them doesn’t make them trustworthy.

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                  • #39
                    bubbaskyjacker
                    Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 138

                    There are a few things wrong here.

                    1. The “customer service” inside the pay shack drive people away. That lady is very disrespectful to me and my friends talking to us like children - when she was actually confused about something. We are both adults and vets for that matter. They are also slow AF for checking in - takes way too much time when there is a line. Loss of revenue

                    2. I’ve tried the online ammo purchase multiple times and they never respond - their process is also terrible - loss of revenue

                    3. The new fee structure MAY be needed but it also needs to make sense. Going once a month like some one posted - it’s cheaper not to get it. 300vs 344 - so another loss of revenue.

                    4. Why the F are they loosing so much money - And why now is it coming out. How much was the renovation ? I heard 3mill and that seems way to high for a pole barn and a pay shack. How much are daily operating expenses? 120 full price customers brings in 3k$ not including extras. So how much does this place cost to run ? This place is blowing Through money. So that needs to be identified and reviewed asap.

                    I will not pay the 200$ because I do not go enough - and yes the range is nice to have but my 4 times a year does not make sense for that fee.

                    It is not my “duty” to keep the range afloat that is USI duty - and If they can’t. Time to clear the stovepipe
                    Last edited by bubbaskyjacker; 04-23-2022, 9:57 AM.

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                    • #40
                      sigguy552
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 702

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                      • #41
                        KJN
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 10

                        Current USI management must go away...

                        I am not going to buy the $200 card as long as the current USI President, Vice President, R/P Manager and half of those pompous RSOs are running the show. They are incompetent managers, (I'm trying to be civil), and must go away immediately. IMHO the whole operation should be changed to mimic Richmond Rod and Gun Club where members vote in the executive team annually and the fields are run by selected volunteers. We should fold up the 5 clubs into 1 club, vote in a new management team and start using volunteer RSO's in return for free shooting time during USI's closed to the public days. This will cut the overhead considerably.

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                        • #42
                          naz
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 3107

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                          • #43
                            Crf450rr
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 501

                            The wife and I have been going there every other week and if this goes through we may only go 3 maybe 4 times a year.
                            All I can say is good luck.
                            Last edited by Crf450rr; 04-23-2022, 12:03 PM.

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                            • #44
                              yoteassasin
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 2574

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                              • #45
                                drahthaar
                                Junior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 3

                                Does anyone know where I could locate verified financial statements for USI showing details of income/expenditures?

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