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  • #16
    macbolan
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2021
    • 9

    Can USI Operate as a Non-Profit entity?

    I'm not sure of the mechanics or business/legal feasibility of this but could USI be converted to a Non-Profit operation? That way I think it could operate at a loss easier and by soliciting Tax Deductible donations, the income could possibly be increased. The $200.00 shoot card could become a tax deduction.

    Just trying to throw out possible solutions.

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    • #17
      macbolan
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2021
      • 9

      Originally posted by mjsweims
      Are efforts being made to attract shooting events? On the trap side other clubs have at least one event per month that brings in many shooters.
      Shooting Events as well as other events. Livermore has a Steak Dinner member event that they sell tickets for (at least they did years ago). Does USI do anything like this? I know they don't have fancy food prep/outdoor BBQs but these things could farmed out to Food Truck guys and possibly still drum up interest in the clubs and maybe even make a few bucks.

      Operating the same ole same ole just is not working, there needs to be some outside the box thinking here to get the USI facility back on its feet. It sure would be a shame if this place went away.

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      • #18
        Russian Bot
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2021
        • 520

        When I lived up there I used to go to that Jack in The Box here and there. Didn't even know the range was there. Had always been told there were no ranges near Bay Point.
        The letters people are posting read like there's a real estate deal in the works.

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        • #19
          MuayThaiJJ
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2020
          • 1333

          What they COULD to do is double the membership fee and renewal fee and charge a couple more dollars to shoot for members and guests. Problem solved. $25 is too cheap to be a member. Livermore charges $150 just to renew.
          YouTube Channel: Nick Shoots Stuff
          Diablo Rod and Gun Club
          03-FFL and COE Holder
          CMAT GMAU

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          • #20
            Alexus
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 72

            What was the rifle/pistol "member" fee before? I remember it was $20 for the non-member 2 years ago.

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            • #21
              MuayThaiJJ
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2020
              • 1333

              How about this?

              Shotgun Fees:
              $15.00 "Member" Discount
              $25.00 "Non-Member"

              Public Rifle/Pistol Fees:
              $15.00 "Member" Discount
              $25.00 "Non-Member"

              EFFECTIVE May 1, 2022
              CLUB Membership $75/yr (new memberships)
              $50/yr (renewals)

              Everyone chip in...it takes a village
              Last edited by MuayThaiJJ; 04-23-2022, 4:31 PM.
              YouTube Channel: Nick Shoots Stuff
              Diablo Rod and Gun Club
              03-FFL and COE Holder
              CMAT GMAU

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              • #22
                macbolan
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2021
                • 9

                20 bucks for non member sounds about right so that is not the increase folks are up in arms about, its the 200 buck shoot card fee that is causing the ire.

                However if Livermore charges 150 bucks per year, and USI charges 25, yeah just bump up the annual fee and charge a smaller shoot card fee.

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                • #23
                  TWoods450
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 453

                  I fully expected fees to go up after the range had to be shut down and rebuilt, the pandemic took a toll as well that had to be made up someplace. It's understandable to increase fees but this solution is ridiculous. For most shooters, it just doesn't make sense to pay for the discount card, to the point that a lot of folks are planning to just go elsewhere to shoot going forward. From the feedback I've seen from friends and others, it seems like this is going to hurt the range more than it's going to help.

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                  • #24
                    macbolan
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2021
                    • 9

                    Are the Shotgun fees "per round", like 7.50 per token for the shotgun traps? 25.00 bucks for 25 shots does seem like a bit much.

                    If the same thing were done for the centerfire range you would be paying 100 bucks for your 100 rounds shot at the Paper.

                    I can see why the shotgun fees look lower because its per round of trap and many shotgun folks purchase several rounds at a time.

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                    • #25
                      Crf450rr
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 501

                      Originally posted by MuayThaiJJ
                      How about this?

                      Shotgun Fees:
                      $15.00 "Member" Discount
                      $25.00 "Non-Member"

                      Public Rifle/Pistol Fees:
                      $15.00 "Member" Discount
                      $25.00 "Non-Member"

                      EFFECTIVE May 1, 2022
                      Diablo Membership $75/yr (new memberships)
                      $50/yr (renewals)

                      Everyone chip in...it takes a village
                      This is what I was thinking ��

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                      • #26
                        MuayThaiJJ
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2020
                        • 1333

                        Originally posted by Crf450rr
                        This is what I was thinking ��
                        YouTube Channel: Nick Shoots Stuff
                        Diablo Rod and Gun Club
                        03-FFL and COE Holder
                        CMAT GMAU

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                        • #27
                          macbolan
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2021
                          • 9

                          If this place closes then you may end up driving longer distances, perhaps an hour or more, to get to a similar outdoor facility (I won't shoot indoor at all anymore). Then you are going to be paying more gas and bridge tolls. There has to be some middle ground that people can deal with rather than just flipping the bird and giving up and going someplace else. USI can be a great facility that is close to many of us. Losing it helps nobody.

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                          • #28
                            Gowking
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2664

                            Originally posted by fawndog
                            What business loses $1000 a day, and for years, and just now let's members know ?
                            How ?
                            To the best of my knowledge prior to the closing back in 2015 USI had a large surplus. In the next 3-1/2 years or so all the infighting between the 5 clubs concerning the R&P rebuild lead to squandering most of what was in the coffers on failed site designs and making up for the income shortfall since the shotgun range can't keep the lights on by itself.
                            Last edited by Gowking; 04-22-2022, 10:52 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Gowking
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 2664

                              Originally posted by MuayThaiJJ
                              How about this?

                              Shotgun Fees:
                              $15.00 "Member" Discount
                              $25.00 "Non-Member"

                              Public Rifle/Pistol Fees:
                              $15.00 "Member" Discount
                              $25.00 "Non-Member"

                              EFFECTIVE May 1, 2022
                              Diablo Membership $75/yr (new memberships)
                              $50/yr (renewals)

                              Everyone chip in...it takes a village
                              The shotgun fees are per round not per visit like the R&P range is. I suppose they could make it a base per visit fee plus a per round fee.

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                              • #30
                                XDJYo
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                                • Apr 2012
                                • 6181

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