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  • #31
    The Gleam
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 12240

    Originally posted by Flouncer


    Uh, yeah, I did. It works intermittently. So for an increasing majority, it's useless and dead. I hope to hell it gets fixed, but it absolutely is not fixed. As a qualified poster stated, at this point, it's best to start over. So be it.

    The site operators have also seemed beholden to their almighty classifieds. If they want to run a Facebook marketplace or Craigslist, then go for it but its lame to hamstring the site over it.
    That would be a no, and no - and another no.


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    Originally posted by Librarian
    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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    • #32
      foothillman
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 1091

      Yeah.....I was thinking the same when that old cathedral burned down.



      Who cares about the history.......just build a new one and they will return.

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      • #33
        FatCity67
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2011
        • 5974

        Originally posted by offrdmania
        The site has been working perfectly at all times of the day for me, going on almost 3 weeks now
        Right? only a neophyte or someone with an agenda is posting negative Nancy stuff now.
        LetsGoBrandon
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        • #34
          offrdmania
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4047

          Originally posted by FatCity67

          Right? only a neophyte or someone with an agenda is posting negative Nancy stuff now.
          Exactly, probably cats from the other site because they are seeing their members starting to migrate back across the tracks
          Previous iTrader rating, over 150 Positive ratings

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          • #35
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 12240

            Originally posted by foothillman
            Yeah.....I was thinking the same when that old cathedral burned .

            Who cares about the history.......just build a new one and they will return.
            Except that people DO care about history, the reason Notre-Dame is being reconstructed and restored adhering to the same design and aesthetic of the original.

            They will only be using modern materials where absolutely necessary. Any stone, brick, wood, mortar, glass, and marble will be sourced from the original geographic locations from where they were obtained when it was originally constructed from years 1163 - 1345.

            And due to that, people will return in larger numbers than if they were to just build a new one.

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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #36
              TrappedinCalifornia
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2018
              • 8995

              Originally posted by offrdmania

              Exactly, probably cats from the other site because they are seeing their members starting to migrate back across the tracks
              As I mentioned in another thread the other day, the metrics being pushed don't tell the story claimed. At this moment, going to that 'other site,' there are fifteen, TOTAL viewers listed for that site's 10 Latest Posts and that includes members and guests so far as I can tell.

              This site doesn't break the stats down that way; but, at the moment we're showing 220 members and 4842 guests on a site with far greater diversity of topics. As I warned, many of that site's members were simply looking for a place to participate and 'community' is more than just about numbers of members. After all, this site lists 352,138 Total Members, but only 6,644 Active Members and those of us who participate with anything like 'regularity' know that those actually posting on the site is only a fraction of the "Active Members" number at any given moment. In fact, we know that many members simply never log out, meaning that I'm dubious with regard to how "Active Members" is defined vs. how many of us would interpret it.

              One way or the other, it seems that the 'basic functionality' of this site is coming back (mostly) and that the individual or purpose driven features are being worked on. If I'm correct in many of that site's members were simply looking for a place to participate, it likely means they are, in fact, starting to come back and it remains to be seen how supportive of that 'community' they continue to be. I have no doubt many prefer it over there. However, many of those were never very 'active' posters over here and some of those who have been are discovering that things are administered quite differently over there.

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              • #37
                Sgt Raven
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3821

                There needs to be a way to reach out to regular users and let them know CGN is coming alive again.
                IMO, the current users are the hard headed stubborn members who won't give up.
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                • #38
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44644

                  I never log out voluntarily.

                  The definition VB (uses? used to use?) for 'active user' is 'has logged in within the last 30 days'.

                  Should current performance persist, more folks would actually be able to log in again, which should push that 'Active Member' count upwards.
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                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #39
                    foothillman
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1091

                    Originally posted by The Gleam

                    Except that people DO care about history, the reason Notre-Dame is being reconstructed and restored adhering to the same design and aesthetic of the original.

                    They will only be using modern materials where absolutely necessary. Any stone, brick, wood, mortar, glass, and marble will be sourced from the original geographic locations from where they were obtained when it was originally constructed from years 1163 - 1345.

                    And due to that, people will return in larger numbers than if they were to just build a new one.

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                    Sorry was being sarcastic.

                    I would think new to firearm ownership Californians would be very confused about the Roster.
                    Looking at old/new Calguns would fill that information gap.
                    " How did we get here? "
                    In California before 2000 firearm ownership was so much more acceptable.
                    Remember going to Longs Drug Store and buying chips, soda and ammo.
                    The slow steady beat of gun violence by the media has changed the landscape.
                    Third generation Californians have parents who have been indoctrinated by the Media, School System and Police/Government.
                    Luckily my dad was not from California but a Yooper and was able to teach me gun safety.
                    My mom a multi generation Californian was indoctrinated while going to school at UC Berkeley.

                    Dad could field dress a deer........mom remove meat from a plastic wrapped foam sheet.
                    2 boys own firearms 2 boys do not.
                    At least all 4 had the opportunity to learn from a parent and not the internet.

                    " in·doc·tri·nate

                    /inˈdäktrəˌnāt/
                    verb
                    past tense: indoctrinated; past participle: indoctrinated
                    • teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically."
                      "broadcasting was a vehicle for indoctrinating the masses"
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                    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Yooper
                    Yooper may refer to: Yoopers, people from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan (the "UP"); Yooper dialect:
                    The dialect of English speech used by the inhabitants

                    Dad has lost the dialect but retired uncle in Las Vegas still has it.



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                    • #40
                      davidj
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1423

                      Originally posted by Sgt Raven
                      There needs to be a way to reach out to regular users and let them know CGN is coming alive again.
                      IMO, the current users are the hard headed stubborn members who won't give up.

                      "the current users are the "PROUD" hard headed stubborn members who won't give up".
                      Fixed it for you.

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                      • #41
                        Kyle1886
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 3693

                        Obviously, I'm in with great folks because the wife has said for the last almost 63 years of marriage, not counting when we first started arguing in high school, that I'm the most stubborn person she has ever met.

                        Proud to be a Calgunner!

                        Kyle
                        Here's to Calguns.net, past, present, and the future 🍸🍸🍷🍻 🍹
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                        • #42
                          offrdmania
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 4047

                          Im sure if someone posted on the other site that this one is mostly working again, it will probably be promptly deleted
                          Previous iTrader rating, over 150 Positive ratings

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                          • #43
                            TrappedinCalifornia
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 8995

                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            I never log out voluntarily.

                            The definition VB (uses? used to use?) for 'active user' is 'has logged in within the last 30 days'.

                            Should current performance persist, more folks would actually be able to log in again, which should push that 'Active Member' count upwards.
                            What I was indicating is that many perceive 'Active Member' as 'active poster' or 'active buyer/seller' and the terms are not synonymous. 'Active reader?' That depends. As I've noted, I 'lurked' for several years and the only section I didn't have the same access to as a member was OT.

                            As you say, the stats will, likely, go up again. But, as I told someone else, stats like that are useful for 'marketing' purposes, but aren't necessarily indicative of actual participation in/on the site beyond staying logged in.

                            I appreciate the clarification though. 👍

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                            • #44
                              Flouncer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 1307

                              First time in three attempts since Christmas that login worked. There is no "other site". This is all there is.
                              A Nation of Sheep Will Beget a Government of Wolves

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                              • #45
                                Blackhawk556
                                Veteran Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 4189

                                I can't access message or my profile page for a while now. performance in general has improved dramatically compared to 4 weeks ago for me.

                                Edit:
                                I was finally able to access the profile section of my page but I can't access my messages inbox.

                                Is this still a known issue? inbox is dead?
                                Last edited by Blackhawk556; 12-29-2024, 9:40 PM.
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