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We've been running on the vBulletin cloud server now for a few months and I'm not enthralled.
The limitations are immense; I can not access any files on the 'server' or view the database, I have no way to see what our server stats are (CPU and RAM usage) and they can not tell me, additions or modifications to the forum other than the bone stock vBulletin install are not an option and basic maintenance must be done by request.
And to top it off the price increases monthly since our traffic is picking back up.
The original plan was set at 800GB/month because that's what we were at prior to the software update and move. Our first month back was 1TB and our second went to 1.2TB. Since they charge by traffic the cost they are now asking is double the starting monthly rate and will increase as our traffic increases.
Frankly what they want is more than out previous upper tier dedicated server (12-Core 24-Thread/64GB RAM) was costing. And we were seriously overgunned.
Just to be clear, this is NOT an 'I need money' post. I'm saying this to explain my next course of action.
We can be just fine doing things right rather than rushed or 'easy'. The move from GeoVario/Professional Edge to the dedicated server was rushed, GV/PE was closing and we had to move. The move to cloud hosting was easy, 'Here it is make it work for me'. Neither was satisfactory.
Frankly I was partly lazy, make it work, and partly stupid. I wanted an easy and fast fix because the problems were mounting and I was concerned the proper fix would take too much time, people would walk away and the community would die off. Given all the difficulties of the past year and a half and how many are still here despite them that was a foolish concern.
Now that the reasons are out there it's time for the plan.
I am taking us off the cloud hosting for all the reasons above and going back to a more reasonably scaled dedicated server or VPS rather than just grabbing the biggest one available at the time. Seriously, 64GB of RAM meant we could cache the entire database, the software and have spare RAM. All the server options I am looking at have at least 1GBPS lines so speed should stay the same or improve.
Right now the plan is to stay with vbulletin 6 since I have the license, it's pretty much set up and frankly there are no convertors available to switch vB6 to SMF or Xenforo. I want to do it soon but not rushed so I will post up a warning once I have all the preliminary things in place.
The limitations are immense; I can not access any files on the 'server' or view the database, I have no way to see what our server stats are (CPU and RAM usage) and they can not tell me, additions or modifications to the forum other than the bone stock vBulletin install are not an option and basic maintenance must be done by request.
And to top it off the price increases monthly since our traffic is picking back up.
The original plan was set at 800GB/month because that's what we were at prior to the software update and move. Our first month back was 1TB and our second went to 1.2TB. Since they charge by traffic the cost they are now asking is double the starting monthly rate and will increase as our traffic increases.
Frankly what they want is more than out previous upper tier dedicated server (12-Core 24-Thread/64GB RAM) was costing. And we were seriously overgunned.
Just to be clear, this is NOT an 'I need money' post. I'm saying this to explain my next course of action.
We can be just fine doing things right rather than rushed or 'easy'. The move from GeoVario/Professional Edge to the dedicated server was rushed, GV/PE was closing and we had to move. The move to cloud hosting was easy, 'Here it is make it work for me'. Neither was satisfactory.
Frankly I was partly lazy, make it work, and partly stupid. I wanted an easy and fast fix because the problems were mounting and I was concerned the proper fix would take too much time, people would walk away and the community would die off. Given all the difficulties of the past year and a half and how many are still here despite them that was a foolish concern.
Now that the reasons are out there it's time for the plan.
I am taking us off the cloud hosting for all the reasons above and going back to a more reasonably scaled dedicated server or VPS rather than just grabbing the biggest one available at the time. Seriously, 64GB of RAM meant we could cache the entire database, the software and have spare RAM. All the server options I am looking at have at least 1GBPS lines so speed should stay the same or improve.
Right now the plan is to stay with vbulletin 6 since I have the license, it's pretty much set up and frankly there are no convertors available to switch vB6 to SMF or Xenforo. I want to do it soon but not rushed so I will post up a warning once I have all the preliminary things in place.
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