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  • #16
    Kelton
    Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 196

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    • #17
      CALI-gula
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2006
      • 6964

      SMF looks like a step backward to bulletin boards of 10 years ago - Mark Serbu's site comes to mind when I see that, and it looks "clean" because it's boring.

      Xenforo looks too... "cute"? - like it's some kind of personal blog of a teenage girl discussing Hello Kitty's latest adventures? Design wise, it's sloppy looking with unnecessary wasted space.

      I like VB4. Seems that most all of the websites that I might go on utilize it for either guns, cars, or similar fields of interest.

      My vote is for VB4. It's an upgrade, but not a drastic change.

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      • #18
        readysetgo
        CGSSA Coordinator
        • Aug 2011
        • 8689

        Originally posted by Cokebottle
        I like the current format.

        So whatever is closest to this format,
        This.
        Originally posted by SkyHawk
        I must be getting old, I don't like the look of any of those proposed in the OP.
        And this.

        Whatever you do, don't use whatever bladeforums went to. That software sucks az!

        Anyway IBTL (the big lock)

        Eta: bladeforums IS xenforo. Which means xenforo is the devil. I will boycott if you go that route (which may or may not motivate you )
        Last edited by readysetgo; 04-12-2018, 12:05 AM.
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        • #19
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44644

          The High Road is xenforo. It's OK; can't say I like that color scheme, but surely that much can be customized.
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #20
            Spartan77
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 710

            I like iTrader, popular/trending topics like on glocktalk homepage, and the thumbsup button. I prefer the Xenforo first and the current VB5 though. I always choose to go with newer things.

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            • #21
              BrassCase
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2011
              • 3177

              Part of your evaluation should be which platform will be able to provide support and continued updates. Do you buy into their annual support plans which usually include all updates. Do they update and improve on at least a yearly basis? I think you should create a quick matrix to help with the decision and then you can more visually weigh the strengths and weaknesses of all.
              I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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              • #22
                ac398
                Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 273

                SMF or Xenforo. VB4 looks terrible, its just a wall of text seeing things and picking things out while scrolling is difficult
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                • #23
                  Marauder2003
                  Waiting for Abs
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2948

                  One requirement (either approved add-in or built-in) is the auto-resizing of photos so text does not get squished. Pretty please.
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                  • #24
                    njineermike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 9784

                    They all seem fine to me. I do automation graphic (SCADA) software all the time. Customers make the mistake of seeing the next upgrade, not the future upgrades and paint themselves into a corner early in the game, and it costs them a LOT to get out later. Go with the easiest upgrade that will allow you to port over later if at all possible. Boxing yourself into a software system you can't move from could be problematic if the developers drop it or the newer packages go in a direction you don't want or can't use. As long as its not a VerticalScope-like nightmare of ad links and landscape hogging overlays, everyone will adjust. Some will complain, but we all complain about something at one time or another.

                    Best of luck on the upgrade.
                    Originally posted by Kestryll
                    Dude went full CNN...
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                    • #25
                      readysetgo
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 8689

                      Re xenforo. Go poke around bladeforums.com.

                      It's not that it's bad visually. Think of all the other functions we use here. The "other" functions are buried and not intuitive at all. PM, user post history etc.

                      Relearning all that, you're going to end up dumping a lot of current users. They won't bother trying to get back up to speed
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                      • #26
                        lordmorgul
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 1203

                        Xenforo has by FAR the best mobile theme and is usable that way.

                        Whatever is chosen I hope is still compatible with Tapatalk.


                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                        Andrew - Lancaster, CA
                        NRA Life Member, SAF / CRPA / FPC member and supporter, USCCA Member

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                        • #27
                          gcvt
                          Orlando, Florida
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 13644

                          I vote for whichever one has smiting and animated avatars like .org
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          I want to be Princess Anastasia today because I feel pretty
                          Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
                          Kes is really just an errand boy
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          I am NOT...anything other than a schmuck...

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                          • #28
                            Kestryll
                            Head Janitor
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 21582

                            Originally posted by tencreations_ar888
                            I would lean towards SMF. Is portability of the itrader system still a factor at this point?
                            I will try to save iTrader or at least see if it can be ported in to something new.
                            The problem is iTrader is an unsupported mod/hack from several years ago so the fact that it still run on 3.8 is surprising in it's own right.

                            What ever we go to if iTrader is not portable I will make sure a more modern rating system is available for it.



                            Originally posted by Cokebottle
                            I like the current format.
                            So do I, unfortunately End Of Life means we become more vulnerable to hacks and attacks and eventually PHP and MySQL will move beyond what the software can handle.


                            Originally posted by Marauder2003
                            The opening page of SMF is a lot of white space. That and the normal CG banner ads means there will be no message sections shown on the first page.

                            V4 feels familiar and comfortable.

                            Xenforo is OK.
                            The link I used for SMF is the plain vanilla version, it looks different at calguns.org
                            Here's a sample of what it looks like with ads, the notifications are above the ads so they're still visible on initial loading.


                            Originally posted by freonr22
                            How much data will be lost?
                            The goal is none.

                            Originally posted by CALI-gula
                            SMF looks like a step backward to bulletin boards of 10 years ago - Mark Serbu's site comes to mind when I see that, and it looks "clean" because it's boring.
                            Just to point this out, the software we're currently using is over 11 years old.
                            We ARE a bulletin board from 10 years ago!


                            Originally posted by readysetgo
                            Re xenforo. Go poke around bladeforums.com.
                            WTH!?! What did they do to that software!!

                            Blade forum seriously screwed up the Xenforo layout, check out Librarian's link to High Road to see a more normal, albeit oddly colored, version.



                            Originally posted by gcvt
                            I vote for whichever one has smiting and animated avatars like .org
                            That would be SMF...
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                            • #29
                              cpttimerestraint
                              Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 439

                              Will they all still work with Tapatalk?

                              Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk

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                              • #30
                                Kestryll
                                Head Janitor
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 21582

                                Originally posted by cpttimerestraint
                                Will they all still work with Tapatalk?

                                Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk
                                Yes, tapatalk has plug ins for vB, Xenforo and SMF.
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