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  • #31
    ten888
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2016
    • 1643

    Originally posted by Kestryll;
    I will try to save iTrader or at least see if it can be ported in to something new.

    The problem is iTrader is an unsupported mod/hack from several years ago so the fact that it still run on 3.8 is surprising in it's own right.



    What ever we go to if iTrader is not portable I will make sure a more modern rating system is available for it.
    "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." - Niebuhr

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    • #32
      FresnoRob
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 2133

      Years ago I played with setting up a forum. I knew squat. I went with SMF.
      VB4 might be more familiar to you, but since they are at VB5 now, how confident are you it won't be EOL quickly?

      Of course you could always go Xenforo just to piss off readysetgo.



      Originally posted by readysetgo
      This.

      And this.

      Whatever you do, don't use whatever bladeforums went to. That software sucks az!

      Anyway IBTL (the big lock)

      Eta: bladeforums IS xenforo. Which means xenforo is the devil. I will boycott if you go that route (which may or may not motivate you )

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      • #33
        meno377
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        • Jul 2013
        • 4911

        Wouldn't the easiest transition be V4? And wouldn't it be simple securing data? I can adapt to any of them but I would think V4 would be the easiest transition.
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        • #34
          CandG
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          • Apr 2014
          • 16970

          Originally posted by meno377
          Wouldn't the easiest transition be V4? And wouldn't it be simple securing data? I can adapt to any of them but I would think V4 would be the easiest transition.
          This is exactly what I'm thinking, too.

          Also, I know many members use Tapatalk, and it seems like everyone's tapatalk accounts and whatnot would transition much smoother this way.
          Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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          • #35
            CandG
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            • Apr 2014
            • 16970

            As far as user interface is concerned, the other options you provided are all terrible.

            I've used a lot of web forums over the years, and Calguns has always been my favorite one to navigate. I doubt I'm alone in this. If you change it dramatically, you risk confusing and alienating people who have grown used to it over the years.

            IMHO.
            Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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            • #36
              OHOD
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              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2009
              • 11047

              I like the clean look of Xenforo.
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              • #37
                Kestryll
                Head Janitor
                • Oct 2005
                • 21584

                Originally posted by FresnoRob
                Years ago I played with setting up a forum. I knew squat. I went with SMF.
                VB4 might be more familiar to you, but since they are at VB5 now, how confident are you it won't be EOL quickly?
                That is a legitimate concern, vBulletin5 is six years old which means vB4 is even older.
                The onlly redeeming aspect is that the vB3-4 license is inclusive where vB5 is a separate license so if you own 3 or 4 you're fine but 5 is a new purchase.
                A lot of people don't want to do that so vB4 has a following, it's kind of Win7 to vB5's Win 10.


                Of course you could always go Xenforo just to piss off readysetgo.
                Don't think that doesn't have value in it's own right...



                Originally posted by meno377
                Wouldn't the easiest transition be V4? And wouldn't it be simple securing data? I can adapt to any of them but I would think V4 would be the easiest transition.
                You'd think that but vB4 is so substantially different than vB3 that it's not much different than converting to another software.
                vB4 uses PHP completely differently than vB3 and has a different 'engine' as well.

                There are some aspects of transferring the database that would be easier but overall the process would be similar.



                Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                This is exactly what I'm thinking, too.

                Also, I know many members use Tapatalk, and it seems like everyone's tapatalk accounts and whatnot would transition much smoother this way.
                Tapatalk will not be affected no matter what.
                You access it through their interface and software, on our end it's just a plug in that is avaialbe for any of these forum softwares.

                Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                As far as user interface is concerned, the other options you provided are all terrible.

                I've used a lot of web forums over the years, and Calguns has always been my favorite one to navigate. I doubt I'm alone in this. If you change it dramatically, you risk confusing and alienating people who have grown used to it over the years.

                IMHO.
                As I mentioned earlier, my preference would be to not change a thing but that's becoming less and less of an option. Soon it simply won't be an option.

                With no patches coming security is going to become a problem and it's not just the forum software it's the server as well.
                With vB3.8.x we're locked in to an old version of PHP and MySQL which means server security and stability can be compromised as well.
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                • #38
                  CandG
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 16970

                  That makes sense... but even if "ease of transition" is not a factor, then my recommendation is still vB 4.

                  From my post only hours ago in another thread:



                  Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                  • #39
                    randomBytes
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1607

                    What are these various systems implemented in?
                    I'd avoid anything that used PHP ;-)

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                    • #40
                      freonr22
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 12945

                      silly question, but what are the soft and hard cost differences between these?
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                      • #41
                        1bulletBarney
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1905

                        Originally posted by Kestryll
                        As I mentioned earlier, my preference would be to not change a thing but that's becoming less and less of an option. Soon it simply won't be an option.

                        With no patches coming security is going to become a problem and it's not just the forum software it's the server as well.
                        With vB3.8.x we're locked in to an old version of PHP and MySQL which means server security and stability can be compromised as well.
                        We can't have another attack from the dreaded spambots or Russians...

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                        • #42
                          recoil_lover
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 27

                          If vBulletin 3.x is EOL then I'd suggest doing an interim upgrade to vB 4, but with a long-term migration plan to Xenforo.

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                          • #43
                            CandG
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                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 16970

                            Originally posted by sfarchitect
                            Based on the information provided, wouldn't the open source product that comes with regular free upgrades be best? None of them are much graphic design wise. Are they all roughly equal functionality wise? That was not in the OP.

                            But if the open source one, which is likely free(?), also happens to be the most resource efficient, maybe there's something here I'm not understanding, but this sure seems like the proverbial 'no-brainer' to me.

                            Someone please tell me why we would NOT use the open source product?
                            As far as graphic design goes, they can all be tweaked to Kes's (and/or our) liking visually-speaking, the more important thing is what the software limitations are, and what features they might lack, or have implemented differently.
                            Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                            • #44
                              readysetgo
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 8689

                              There is no Bacon option in this poll = poll failure.

                              I vote create your own software...Baconorumapatalka. Be the leader, top of the food chain, change the game, neva bin dun befo.
                              Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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                              • #45
                                Foebia
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 1347

                                Used invision powerboard many times, not sure of its current feature set.


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