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  • #31
    Imageview
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 1621

    Originally posted by Corbin Dallas
    I think removing the guests is the key. At 0537 when typing this message, there is no way there are 13k guests. These must be bots.
    Guests don't work the way you think they do. Although properly hardening the site is important, I can't evaluate if that has been done sufficiently. I am familiar enough with the software to know that the number at the bottom is meaningless.

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    • #32
      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20815

      my theory is cloudflare is attacking us then emailing the admins that if you sign up with cloudflare we will protect your site

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      • #33
        tacticalcity
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Aug 2006
        • 10916

        My best guess is the hosting provider has bandwidth limits on the site. Once we hit those, they take the site down for a number of hours. This is what happens when you use cut rate hosting providers. Why use a cut rate provider? Can't afford a good one that supports the sites actual needs. This is a consequence of providing an incredibly valuable service that doesn't actually generate income.

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        • #34
          EM2
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2008
          • 5516

          Originally posted by tacticalcity
          My best guess is the hosting provider has bandwidth limits on the site. Once we hit those, they take the site down for a number of hours. This is what happens when you use cut rate hosting providers. Why use a cut rate provider? Can't afford a good one that supports the sites actual needs. This is a consequence of providing an incredibly valuable service that doesn't actually generate income.

          AOL dial up?








          "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

          If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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          • #35
            tacticalcity
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Aug 2006
            • 10916

            Originally posted by EM2


            AOL dial up?








            Funny, but AOL Dial Up is not a hosting provider. That's an internet provider. Different animal entirely. Back in the AOL days there were sites like GoeCities that would offer you a tiny amount of space on their server for a website. They made money by posting banner ads on your web page you could not remove. The other catch was that if you got more than a couple hundred visitors a day, they shut off your hosting service off for the remainder of the day. Then around midnight it came back online again. Until you got too many hits and they cut you off again. The vicious cycle repeated over and over. AOL offered their own hosting service back in the day, but I do not remember if they did this or not.

            The behavior we are seeing with this site reminds me of that practice. Especially since it happens around peak hours when people are just getting off work. I would not be surprised if this site is being hosted on a plan that cuts it off once it reaches a certain bandwidth threshold.

            Yes, I am that old. But in my defense, I was in the military, then college, back then.
            Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-17-2025, 2:45 PM.

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            • #36
              EM2
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2008
              • 5516

              Originally posted by tacticalcity

              Funny, but AOL Dial Up is not a hosting provider. That's an internet provider. Different animal entirely. Back in the AOL days there were sites like GoeCities that would offer you a tiny amount of space on their server for a website. They made money by posting banner ads on your web page you could not remove. The other catch was that if you got more than a couple hundred visitors a day, they shut off your hosting service off for the remainder of the day. Then around midnight it came back online again. Until you got too many hits and they cut you off again. The vicious cycle repeated over and over. AOL offered their own hosting service back in the day, but I do not remember if they did this or not.

              The behavior we are seeing with this site reminds me of that practice. Especially since it happens around peak hours when people are just getting off work. I would not be surprised if this site is being hosted on a plan that cuts it off once it reaches a certain bandwidth threshold.

              Yes, I am that old. But in my defense, I was in the military, then college, back then.
              Okey Dokey, but "AOL dial up" was funny, as this is what most of us remember of the olden times of the early www. days.
              Still can hear the dial up tones in my head.
              "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

              If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

              Originally posted by SAN compnerd
              It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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              • #37
                tacticalcity
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Aug 2006
                • 10916

                Originally posted by EM2

                Okey Dokey, but "AOL dial up" was funny, as this is what most of us remember of the olden times of the early www. days.
                Still can hear the dial up tones in my head.
                I am betting it still exists somewhere, somehow, in some shape and/or form.

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                • #38
                  ikeo
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 133

                  Originally posted by Corbin Dallas
                  I think removing the guests is the key. At 0537 when typing this message, there is no way there are 13k guests. These must be bots.
                  this is just one of many issues. TacticalCity also has another good insight. There’s a lot of little things that needs to be rearchitected in general.

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                  • #39
                    davidj
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1452

                    Delete-123

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                    • #40
                      compulsivegunbuyer
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2566

                      That racoon sure seems to rent a lot of space in peoples heads.

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                      • #41
                        davidj
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1452

                        Originally posted by compulsivegunbuyer
                        That racoon sure seems to rent a lot of space in peoples heads.
                        On the contrary, it's more like what happens when you do not take the trash out-it begins to smell up the whole space.

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                        • #42
                          calif 15-22
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 5871

                          Any updates?
                          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                          It's one thing to question everything . . . It's entirely another thing to reject simple, rational explanations in favor of ever more fantastic and far reaching explanations because you've decided the government cannot be trusted.
                          Originally posted by Hoooper
                          Anyone who says the American dream requires a specific pay range doesn't understand the meaning of the American dream
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                          • #43
                            The Gleam
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 12301

                            Originally posted by calif 15-22
                            Any updates?
                            No.

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                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                            • #44
                              Corbin Dallas
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • May 2006
                              • 6126

                              I have some log files to go through. I’ve not had spare time recently to devote as work has kept me very busy the last few months.

                              I’m hoping to have some downtime this next few weeks to look into this further.
                              NRA Life Member and Certified Instructor: Pistol - Rifle - Shotgun - PPITH - PPOTH - NRA Certified RSO

                              WTB the following - in San Diego
                              --Steyr M357A1 357SIG
                              --Five Seven IOM (round trigger guard)

                              Never forget - השואה... לעולם לא עוד.

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                              • #45
                                The Gleam
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 12301

                                Originally posted by Corbin Dallas
                                I have some log files to go through. I’ve not had spare time recently to devote as work has kept me very busy the last few months.

                                I’m hoping to have some downtime this next few weeks to look into this further.
                                Hey! What did Spock find in the toilet of the USS Enterprise?

                                The Captain's Log (files).

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                                Originally posted by Librarian
                                What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                                If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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