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  • fastkevin
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 573

    Riflegear Hate Whitey/[prior] Military?

    I'm the type that purposely buys from the local guys first, to support my local business(es). Up 'til now I shopped at Ammo Bros(until their 'smith' ruined my upper attempting to install a piston kit, then 'only' charged me $200 for his 'time'), and today I decided to hit up Riflegear.
    I entered the store(which is at most 8 feet from the counter to the door), grabbed a number, and waited. When it was time for my number to come up, a dude behind the counter looked at me and I showed him my tag(14). He then looked away from me, and at a female, who showed him her number, which was the one after mine(15). He then proceeded to point at her and click the number display THROUGH 14, and stopped at 15. I know what you're thinking, and you could be right, but she wasn't even 5' tall, and EASILY two-bills(200lbs). Maybe that was his type...but in any event, I then looked at him and asked in an outside voice, "what happened to 14'? Everyone looked at me, but nobody said anything.
    Here's the facts:
    I was the ONLY white person in the store. EVERYONE behind the counter was asian. And I noticed a few minutes ago I'm wearing a t-shirt with a particular U.S. Army unit crest on it.
    I had been in the store standing quietly in the same location for the previous 20-minutes.
    The Counter-person looked right at me and saw my number 14, then chose to help the next person(who like everyone else in the store, wasn't white, and wasn't wearing any military-related clothing), AFTER clicking the number sign TWICE to get through MY number, and land on the next person's.
    For whatever reason, dude CHOSE NOT to help ME. Whether that was his decision alone, or that of the store itself, I don't know. The only thing I can say is that there was NO mistake made on his part. He saw me plain as day, and purposely helped someone else.
    The ONLY differences between me and the other customers was the color of my skin, and the emblem on my shirt.
    There WASN'T a booger sticking out of my nose, nor am I oozing puss or any other vile bodily fluid that would make one not want to come within 100 yards of me. I know because I checked..
    I know the local asian communites around here aren't big flag wavers(U.S. anyway), and this store IS in a city with a huge asian population, but refusing service to a 'customer' because he's white and/or [prior] military? That's just stupid...my money is just as green as everyone else.
    In any event, I know I'm not gonna even consider doing business with this store again. If it's one thing we're not short of around here, it's gun stores.
    Last edited by fastkevin; 02-24-2012, 2:22 PM.
  • #2
    Barbarossa
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 4433

    Riflegear is typically known for their exemplary customer service, this seems totally odd...

    So did you get helped or not?
    What happened after you asked about #14?
    Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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    • #3
      Dirtbiker
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 2810

      I'm a big white guy and I get great service from whoever is behind the counter.

      Not saying it didn't happen but that is out of character from my experiences with them.
      To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

      Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        RazzB7
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 3419

        Yeah, what happened after you pointed out the MISTAKE?
        Originally posted by Conan the Barbarian
        Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing
        Originally posted by MrsRazz
        I don't wish to be known as a set of tits behind a gun.

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        • #5
          DeeL2003
          Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 293

          Wow someone pulled out the race card.

          I was just there two days ago to pick up my AR and 10 days prior. The majority of the people there, on my first visit were white and on my second visit were a mix of everything. I even saw 2 guys in Army ACU's(1 was a "non-flag waving" asian guy) falling in line and getting service just like the rest of us. IMO, I don't think the color of your skin nor your military background was the contributing factor of you being ignored by the employee. Maybe he didn't like how you looked. J/K Much respect to you for your service, but please don't make assumptions based on one visit. And please don't assume the local asians there are anti-American or what-not, that's just plain ignorance on your part.

          Have a nice day.

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          • #6
            DVSmith
            Cantankerous old coot
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2007
            • 3702

            I have always been treated well in their store. I have never felt any type of attitude and I am as white, round, bald, middle aged kind of guy as you could find. This totally odd.

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            • #7
              NiMiK
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 501

              Wow, that sucks to hear! The service their is pretty damn awesome to say the least.
              Whatever the reason, that's pretty tasteless and inexcusable on their behalf. I highly doubt it has anything to do with race. I say call next time and get their name before heading down there. That way you can just ask for the person you spoke to on the phone.

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              • #8
                shark92651
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Oct 2006
                • 5431

                Kevin,

                I'm sorry but your claims of racism are ridiculous. I reviewed the security footage and you were on your cell phone when your number was called multiple times. The salesman then went to number 15 and a few seconds later you realized you were skipped and you threw your hands up, dropped your ticket, and walked out the door without saying a word. Basically your story is BS and you didn't sack up and speak up that you were skipped. If you had spoken up, we would have immediately served you since you were next. I can post the video footage here for all to see if you like.

                David (the cracker that owns the place)
                Last edited by shark92651; 02-24-2012, 3:31 PM.
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                www.riflegear.com

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                • #9
                  Peter W Bush
                  Calguns Supreme Overlord
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4726

                  Wow.. are you claiming that there is a gun shop that hates WHITE vets?! Fail.
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                  Originally posted by TURBOELKY
                  Well, glad you got the kit anyways, I'm sure I'll fondle it a little in the near future..... oh God, that's going to be in somebody's signature....:D
                  Originally posted by TURBOELKY
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                  • #10
                    email
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2503

                    Tall clean cut military looking white guy here...I've had zero problems there. I've only deal with two people, and they were both Asian. Both were stand up, knowledgeable, non-FUD kind of guys.

                    I felt welcomed once I was helped. There were several people ahead of me and I felt they were treated the same (even those who asked really lame questions)

                    No, I don't work there, just my experience.

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                    • #11
                      RazzB7
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 3419

                      Originally posted by shark92651
                      Kevin,

                      I'm sorry but your claims of racism are ridiculous. I reviewed the security footage and you were on your cell phone when your number was called multiple times. The salesman then went to number 15 and a few seconds later you realized you were skipped and you threw your hands up, dropped your ticket, and walked out the door without saying a word. Basically your story is BS and you didn't sack up and speak up that you were skipped. If you had spoken up, we would have immediately served you since you were next. I can post the video footage here for all to see if you like.
                      pwned!
                      Originally posted by Conan the Barbarian
                      Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing
                      Originally posted by MrsRazz
                      I don't wish to be known as a set of tits behind a gun.

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                      • #12
                        email
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2503

                        Originally posted by shark92651
                        .... I can post the video footage here for all to see if you like.

                        OP gotz OWNED.

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                        • #13
                          john.t.singh
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1440

                          Originally posted by shark92651
                          Kevin,

                          I'm sorry but your claims of racism are ridiculous. I reviewed the security footage and you were on your cell phone when your number was called multiple times. The salesman then went to number 15 and a few seconds later you realized you were skipped and you threw your hands up, dropped your ticket, and walked out the door without saying a word. Basically your story is BS and you didn't sack up and speak up that you were skipped. If you had spoken up, we would have immediately served you since you were next. I can post the video footage here for all to see if you like.
                          We must learn to live together as brothers or we will perish together as fools.

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                          • #14
                            RazzB7
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 3419

                            I think I'll go over and do some shopping on Riflegear's website now. I hear they really like big white guys!
                            Originally posted by Conan the Barbarian
                            Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing
                            Originally posted by MrsRazz
                            I don't wish to be known as a set of tits behind a gun.

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                            • #15
                              Paper Boy
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 5666

                              Originally posted by shark92651
                              I can post the video footage here for all to see if you like.
                              Well that was quick and definitive....
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