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  • mievil
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 1788

    Discount Gun Mart Santee

    They refused to transfer a 59/66 SKS with the GL removed and replaced with a flash hider for us today. This was one that J&G was selling a few months back.

    The first reasoning was "it has a bayonet lug, and that is an evil feature."

    The sales lady said, "See, none of our guns have bayonet lugs." After I pointed out that there was an AR behind the counter with a bayonet lug, I was told "Oh, well that one is featureless."

    "Well, except for the bayonet lug you just mentioned? You do know that was removed from the evil feature list somewhere around 2004, right?"

    "Yeah, it's a California thing. You know how bad this state is. Hold on, let me ask the other sales guy."

    We waited about 5 minutes while he was on the range and he came back and said, "We can't transfer that because it has a flash hider."

    "Right, but it is a fixed magazine."

    "It is classified as an assault weapon."

    "Ok, I'm really, really confused. Is it because it has a bayonet lug, or a flash hider, or both?"

    "It's because it is an SKS. We are sorry, it's not us, it's California."

    "No, no it's not a "California thing". California states that the flash hider is legal if it does not have a detachable magazine. It is a perfectly legal firearm with a fixed magazine and a flash hider."

    OK, well........I guess I can knock another sales place off the list? I totally understand the confusion on the new laws, but this is not a new law. What the heck?
  • #2
    Two Nuggets
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 1054

    Save yourself the hassle and use another FFL. DGM is terrible with out of state transfers and PPT's. If it's not their in stock inventory they don't like it.

    I used gunfighter to transfer my SKS. Not a single complaint or ***** fest.

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    • #3
      mievil
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 1788

      We'll be calling AO Sword tomorrow, and Gussler's after that. Gunfighter is good, but too far for me in East County.

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      • #4
        GMG
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2008
        • 7974

        Originally posted by mievil
        We'll be calling AO Sword tomorrow, and Gussler's after that. Gunfighter is good, but too far for me in East County.
        Gunfighter is worth the drive !
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        • #5
          etwinam
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 3223

          I have been there a few times and I can say there are a few turkeys that work there. One guy behind the counter argued with me that no Sig P220 exist in 9mm. I said I have shot one and I know they exist. Wither way it was not in realm of reality to recognize it or not and I didn't care since I wasn't obviously going to be buying it from him. They certainly need an attitude adjustment from time to time as most gun stores do I have found.

          Either way just find another FFL. La mesa has a couple gun stores like Fine firearms and Turners in El cajon isn't bad.

          I would leave a nice review on Yelp so perhaps the manager will read it and try to "Inform the staff" what is legal and not.

          Good luck
          God, Guns & Integrity. Prioritize your Priorities.

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          • #6
            fleetline
            Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 114

            I've done a PPT at Discount Gun Mart with no issues on an AR15, but that was before the newest laws came into effect.

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            • #7
              mievil
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 1788

              I've done a bunch of PPTs there and it is my preferred range since it is a couple miles away. I've never seen these staff members before.

              We'll try AO with Fine Firearms as a backup. I won't go to Turners in El Cajon. Had the same deal with them a few years back where they said my blocked CZ SP01 mags were illegal because blocked mags were illegal. And they had 10/30 mags on the shelf........Plus, it took almost 75 minutes to do a PPT. Not including the wait after you pulled the number. That was after Turners in CM told me they had to charge me $150 on an incoming rifle for transfer fees, because they didn't have the safe space.

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              • #8
                eLeL
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 213

                I've done quite a bit of business with DGM in Morena and the guys we deal with are pretty knowledgeable. Santee never seems to have the inventory so we don't bother. And it looks like we don't have any reason to visit now that the folks aren't as up to speed as Morena. Plenty of other great shops in town. Cross Santee off your list.

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                • #9
                  BucDan
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 4060

                  GFT is the way to go. DGM is pretty meh. Parallax, they've been pretty quiet and not active in the gun community.

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                  • #10
                    wonder9
                    Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 118

                    Originally posted by mievil
                    We'll be calling AO Sword tomorrow, and Gussler's after that. Gunfighter is good, but too far for me in East County.
                    If you plan on doing business with AO Sword, bring extra cash, they always find a way to screw some more money out of customers. The worst customer service of any gunshop I've been to, and that's counting Turner's and El Cajon Gun Exchange.

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                    • #11
                      mievil
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1788

                      Originally posted by eLeL
                      I've done quite a bit of business with DGM in Morena and the guys we deal with are pretty knowledgeable. Santee never seems to have the inventory so we don't bother. And it looks like we don't have any reason to visit now that the folks aren't as up to speed as Morena. Plenty of other great shops in town. Cross Santee off your list.
                      Dude. You know, the fastest PPT I ever did was at Morena. Literally took about 6 minutes. I couldn't believe it. Buyer, seller, sign here, gtfo. That's what I want.


                      Originally posted by wonder9
                      If you plan on doing business with AO Sword, bring extra cash, they always find a way to screw some more money out of customers. The worst customer service of any gunshop I've been to, and that's counting Turner's and El Cajon Gun Exchange.

                      Good to know. We called today and they confirmed they can transfer the rifle. I should have asked fees. Will double check tomorrow.

                      Originally posted by BucDan
                      GFT is the way to go. DGM is pretty meh. Parallax, they've been pretty quiet and not active in the gun community.
                      I like GFT. Just so far to drive. Parallax......I'm over it. No reason to drive 45 minutes one way to wait around for 2 hours for someone to say hello. Especially when GFT will literally say hello and offer you a water as soon as you walk in the door. Regardless of how many people are there.

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                      • #12
                        B&D
                        Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 157

                        Sorry you had a bad experience. Small shops have owners. You should ask to speak with him instead of a manager.

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                        • #13
                          Bullitt01
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 3905

                          Ha, does not surprise me one bit. There favorite; (santee) our computer is down!
                          But, there is an FFL just a few blocks away that is worse!! (not turners)

                          Edit: the guy you talk to a few blocks away IS the owner,,,and he will let you know that he is!

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                          • #14
                            mievil
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1788

                            El Cajon Gun Exchange?

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                            • #15
                              Xtracrispy
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1329

                              I've done several transactions at AO sword with no problems. Not sure what happened with wonder9 but I've not experienced that.

                              El Cajon Gun exchange is horrible through and through. Gunfighter is a good place. There's also Wilde Built Tactical in La Mesa.
                              The actual value of above $.02 is less than $.01 after taxes.

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