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  • #16
    DVSmith
    Cantankerous old coot
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2007
    • 3702

    From a facebook post:

    ATTN Orange County voters: In 2005/06 A OCSD Sgt. popped up on my a radar. A young, smart Sergeant that was destined to go places. At that time with no political ambitions he was very Pro-2A and very Pro CCW. As he advanced through the ranks, every time he was over the Professional Standards Division which runs the CCW Bureau, good things always happened. Once he became the Under Sheriff, changes took off like a rocket. Allowing five guns instead of three, now unlimited. Changing the course of fire to less rounds. Taking the whole process online to cut down the renewal process from 6 months to 6 weeks. This list goes on.

    Don Barnes is now running for Sheriff and needs our help. He is now a member of this Closed group. He will answer your questions here when he has time. He can not campaign on county time.

    HUGE NOTE: Being still involved in Law Enforcement, I RESPECT Rank. Don doesn't like to be called Chief or Under Sheriff. While I have a huge problem with that, I honor and respect his wishes. That is very hard for me. Just call him Don.

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    • #17
      basket of deplorables
      Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 264

      So any updates on best candidate?
      Seems top 2 are Barnes and Harrington at this time.

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      • #18
        Citadelgrad87
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2007
        • 16736

        Time is wasting.

        Does anyone have info to share on this?
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        You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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        • #19
          JackOfClubs
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 10

          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
          Last time, two pro ccw candidates split the vote and both lost.
          Not true, actually. Hutchens won with more than 50% of the vote. Even if one of her opponents had dropped out and ALL of his votes had gone over the other, (an unlikely occurrence), she still would have won.

          I have heard good things about Barnes (similar to DVSmith's post above) but the following makes me wonder:

          Barnes stated he favors “reasonable issue” over shall-issue (despite the success of shall-issue, which has swept the country over the last three decades). I have no idea how reliable that quote is, I just found it Googling Barnes.

          Edit: Poking around a bit more, I found this PDF from 2012. Points 7 and 16 are the most relevant:
          7. If the “good cause” requirement were eliminated from Policy 218 and from the Penal Code, thereby increasing the numbers of persons eligible to carry concealed handguns, neither the citizens of Orange County nor its law enforcement officers would be safer.
          16. The “good cause” requirement allows Orange County and the State to limit the number of weapons that the public at large has access to immediately, which protects both officers and the public. Increasing the numbers of concealed weapons increases the threat and possibility of firearm violence to the community at large and to law enforcement officers.
          Trying to give this the benefit of the doubt, this was before the Peruta decision, which seems to have changed the policy. At least Barnes cites Peruta in this (very brief) clip where he defends his 2A credentials. Still, he goes into great detail (under penalty of perjury) in explaining why the Good Cause requirement is necessary. Hard to reconcile that with his current position.
          Last edited by JackOfClubs; 05-03-2018, 10:44 PM.
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          • #20
            SupermotoGlock
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 16

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            • #21
              gunslingers
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 77

              Do we know which candidate is supported by California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA)?

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              • #22
                Glock Fan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 551

                Originally posted by gunslingers
                Do we know which candidate is supported by California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA)?
                CRPA endorses Barnes. It's on their website.

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                • #23
                  kriller134
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1302

                  Anyone have the pending results?

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                  • #24
                    Oceanbob
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 12719

                    Originally posted by kriller134
                    Anyone have the pending results?
                    May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                    Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                    Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                    • #25
                      CASoxFan
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 46

                      Barnes hasn't officially won yet. Right now he has >50% of the vote, which would mean he wins, but once they tally all the ballots if that falls below 50% he goes into a run-off against Nguyen, which is a very scary proposition as from what I can read between the lines he is not pro-CCW. I am hoping it doesn't come to this.

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