Angeles shooting range has some of the worst range officers with bad attitude

[Lifeon2whls]

Whenever a RO at Angeles has given me grief about about picking up my brass I simply grab the broom along with those dust pans they have, sweep up the whole area around me and then dump all of the brass directly into my range box. That's is a VERy rare occurrence though and I will say that most times I just let the RO know that I am picking up my brass and ask that they don't sweep it. I've never had anyone dispute me on it and I try to pick up the brass around the shooting lane every box and will clean up the area in front of me in the dirt during each cease fire.

What I DO NOT like about Angeles is that on weekends you tend to get more yahoos out there that know little if anything about gun safety. Many first timers doing some scary stuff, especially on the pistol side (tends to be more by the shooting gallery).

[iBkickinit]

MY Company has more than one dipsh*t working at it, so I don't know why peopel expect every employee to be perfect. How do people get through the day if little stuff like that can ruin it for them?

Prices went up? Sounds like a business. On Sundays there is NO room anywhere and people waiting for spots. I'd raise prices too.

Brass? I try to clean up after 20-30 rounds at most. Waiting to collect 200 rounds of brass is inconsiderate and I'd sweep it if I was an RSO too. Can they be dicks sometimes? yes. Know your **** and don't take their ****. They usually move on to the next newbie who doesn't know better. I take my AOWs and the SAME RSO comes over everytime telling me to go put that "evil gun" away so I dont get into trouble. I kindly explain its an AOW and offer to show him the paperwork and all is well. I'd kick people out much faster than they tend to for as often as I get swept with loaded guns there.

I go a few times a month, and it is what it is. Vote with your money and time. More room for me, I just dont let it get to me

[whatwhy]

Waiting to collect 200 rounds of brass is inconsiderate and I'd sweep it if I was an RSO too.

So if I swept a pile of 200 rounds of brass in a neat pile next to a pillar where I was standing and shooting, and I were the only person on the range, you would find that inconsiderate and come sweep it right from besides my feet?

Just wanna make sure we are in the right context here.

[iBkickinit]

So if I swept a pile of 200 rounds of brass in a neat pile next to a pillar where I was standing and shooting, and I were the only person on the range, you would find that inconsiderate and come sweep it right from besides my feet?

Just wanna make sure we are in the right context here.

Sweeping it into a pile isn't exactly waiting to collect it. I'm talking about the people with an ejected brass pattern that spans 2-3 benches. If i am tripping over your pile of brass as I go between forward and back benches, thats a problem.

If you swept it into a pile out of the way, thats what I call policing your brass.

[whatwhy]

Sweeping it into a pile isn't exactly waiting to collect it. I'm talking about the people with an ejected brass pattern that spans 2-3 benches. If i am tripping over your pile of brass as I go between forward and back benches, thats a problem.

If you swept it into a pile out of the way, thats what I call policing your brass.

Okay cool, we are on the same page. I was there when the exact scenario I described happened to heidad. No one else on the range, neat little pile at his feet and the RO just walked over and swept it all up.

[Syntax Error]

I've asked a few of the ROs about the brass collection and they have told me that they split the proceeds of the brass amongst themselves at the end of the day, so in a way it's a form of "bonus" for their wages. Establishing that, there is definitely a perverse incentive for the ROs to hijack your brass over in Angeles, and this is indeed a problem when they deign that .308 brass shot out of an M1A is somehow construed to be "theirs" if you don't immediately police your brass.

[penguinofsleep]

the other ro's never looked at my brass,well since we were shooting bolts but there ignored us and were looking at some guys gf all day lol

i get it and all, but i would have reported this. rso not keeping the range safe - yep sounds great...

luckily, and flame suit is on, i am glad that RSO pays attention when i've been there. every time i go there, when they call ceasefire and tell everyone to go down range to do w/e, i will intentionally, with very obviously and clearly empty hands raised up to about chest level, linger by my firearm a little bit too long before going down and see if the RSO calls me out for it. i'm very happy that they do every single time. may look a bit silly to some people when i do it, but can't be too careful, especially knowing that some of the RSO here are a bit younger while others seem to be semi-distracted with brass.

as for the brass, i've never had a problem, but i don't doubt what cgn is saying. i have noticed the RSO watching people's brass a little bit more intently than i would like. i've also had them sweep my brass once, but it was for rimfire rounds. left me alone when i was shooting centerfire after.

[penguinofsleep]

by the way, does anyone have the name of the actual owner or manager (or contact info, etc) just in case something does arise? while angeles isn't perfect, i don't think it's a bad facility and most of the staff there are generally pretty good in my experience. i'd like to see them not close down.

[calibased]

What is the proper way to walk around with a handgun at this shooting range? I have never been taught to walk with a barrel facing up. Always down in a safe direction.

[socal_gunner]

Empty pointed up. Usually just from the shooting bench to your gear on the back table.

[MagicalWisps]

I can understand the brass thing and the yelling, but I have agreed every time I have witness the yelling.

I once saw a guy try to put up his target on a hot line. Insta Yell CEASE FIRE!
People fiddling with their guns on a bench during cease fire.
I'll be honest their are some people there who are unsafe with their guns. They have rules printed on sheets of paper where you sign in just read them and follow them it isn't hard.

Saw a guy sweep his muzzle across his whole family and then goes to take the bolt out and he had a live round in the chamber. He got instructed to point his gun up when carrying it from the bench.

Needless to say I kept my own eyes on them until I left. And I saw a range Officer eagle eyeing them too.

It is basic gun safety. I hate when people are so caviler with their guns and do very unsafe things. Yet then get mad when someone corrects them.

They have concrete so I wouldn't want to point the gun down while moving it as a discharge could produce harmful blow back from a round fragmenting or even deflecting off the concrete floor.

Good place to shoot at ranges of 600 yrds. It is farther away for me than Burro, but they do have longer range.

[HappyCamper781]

Calibased, when you are at a range with a dirt floor, down / downrange is safe.

When you are at a range with a CONCRETE floor, UP and downrange is safe, because if it goes off when pointed down, you get these things called ricochets.