Worst city to own a firearm?

[Frisco3Gun]

Good point. And how about available gun ranges within the city to shoot the guns you own?

Can't name a single one. Once again, you have Jackson Arms and Coyote Point south of the city.

[SkyHawk]

I know in counties/small towns in California you can conceal carry a pistol.

Even in small towns or friendly counties, it is legal to carry loaded+concealed only with a permit except in certain circumstances like for example a campsite. But those permits are good in the whole state. When I go to San Francisco, I am legally carrying a concealed/loaded firearm on me the whole time. I will be there again in a few weeks for a week long stay, and I will have a Glock 43 on me.

[tiger58]

Even in small towns or friendly counties, it is legal to carry loaded+concealed only with a permit except in certain circumstances like for example a campsite. But those permits are good in the whole state. When I go to San Francisco, I am legally carrying a concealed/loaded firearm on me the whole time. I will be there again in a few weeks for a week long stay, and I will have a Glock 43 on me.

Did you know that it's illegal to carry in s.f. ? city ordinance, they also don't allow hollow points! Permit or not!

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[QuarterBoreGunner]

Did you know that it's illegal to carry in s.f. ? city ordinance, they also don't allow hollow points! Permit or not!

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All of this is false.

Sorry dude, 100% incorrect. A License To Carry is valid throughout the state of California; everywhere and anywhere (unless restricted on the permit itself). Cities can't make up laws that supersede state law.

And the hollowpoint restriction is limited to ammunition that is identical in performance to 'Black Talon' and then... even not that.

http://www.calgunlaws.com/facing-nra-lawsuit-san-francisco-admits-its-new-ordinance-doesnt-ban-hollow-point-ammunition-after-all/

EDIT: I apologize; this part *maybe* correct - "Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk"

[tiger58]

All of this is false.

Sorry dude, 100% incorrect. A License To Carry is valid throughout the state of California; everywhere and anywhere (unless restricted on the permit itself). Cities can't make up laws that supersede state law.

And the hollowpoint restriction is limited to ammunition that is identical in performance to 'Black Talon' and then... even not that.

http://www.calgunlaws.com/facing-nra-lawsuit-san-francisco-admits-its-new-ordinance-doesnt-ban-hollow-point-ammunition-after-all/

EDIT: I apologize; this part *maybe* correct - "Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk"

Go to s.f. and tell a officer your carrying with ur permit and see what happens. You are right about state law but nonetheless you and your gun will go to jail!

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[Mayor McRifle]

Go to s.f. and tell a officer your carrying with ur permit and see what happens. You are right about state law but nonetheless you and your gun will go to jail!

Another FUD Merchant in our midst. Where are all these guys coming from?

[SkyHawk]

Go to s.f. and tell a officer your carrying with ur permit and see what happens. You are right about state law but nonetheless you and your gun will go to jail!

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Quit while you're ahead bud. If they arrest me, they will be on the losing end of a big money lawsuit, and they know it which is why I won't be taking a ride in a wagon.

You apparently don't like it, but get over it. It is perfectly legal to carry in the city with my permit, and I avail myself of that privilege every chance I get - I make no exceptions for FUD.

[tiger58]

Quit while you're ahead bud. If they arrest me, they will be on the losing end of a big money lawsuit, and they know it which is why I won't be taking a ride in a wagon.

You apparently don't like it, but get over it. It is perfectly legal to carry in the city with my permit, and I avail myself of that privilege every chance I get - I make no exceptions for FUD.

Why don't you prove me wrong. I'm picking up my permit tomorrow. And calls were made to sheriff's and that's what was told to me by them and that your local sheriff could pick you and your gun up from jail

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[tiger58]

Not trying to start anything. I'm pro gun also. The question was asked in my ccw class about carrying in s.f. and that's when calls were made to confirm. I'm not saying it will result in a case but because it's their city ordinance they will take you to jail.

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[readysetgo]

Tiger, it may help if you would post relevant code to backup what you were told.

[smak28]

Hate to say it folks but San Francisco takes the cake for worst city to own a gun:

- Required the video recording of guns purchased (when we had the 1 gun store)
- Reporting of ammunition sold to the Police Department (when we had the 1 gun store)
- No hollowpoint ammo sales (when we had the 1 gun store)
- 2 boxes (100rds) of ammo purchase per day max (when we had the 1 gun store)
- No more gun store since Oct 2015 because of the first 2 points which were the final straw that closed the last San Francisco store
- No high capacity mags even if you purchased them way back when and have proof of ownership
- No ammo shipping into San Francisco
- Must drive at least an hour to long gun/outdoor range
- Cannot have your firearm out of locked storage unless you are carrying INSIDE YOUR OWN HOME!

This is the latest: http://www.sfexaminer.com/san-franci...-control-laws/

[kimberlee1209]

Thanks for info

This information you posted about current laws, kind of makes sense. I can't find any good sources online whether it's anti firearm, misinformation, or sometimes stupidity. I'm new firearms so knowing this gives me a better understanding.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Not trying to start anything. I'm pro gun also. The question was asked in my ccw class about carrying in s.f. and that's when calls were made to confirm. I'm not saying it will result in a case but because it's their city ordinance they will take you to jail.

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Tiger, this same BS has been rumored for many many years, and I am here to tell you that it is completely false.

SF cannot arbitrarily disallow a valid and current LTC holder from carrying in the city; they cannot arrest you for it, they cannot legally confiscate your firearm and there is absolutely no "city ordinance" that prohibits legal carry within city limits.

Seriously, I have my LTC and I carry in the city pretty much every day for the last.. jeez... 20 years? damn I'm old. Anyway, it's a common FUD story that some issuing agencies and "CCW trainers" keep promoting. Why? Who friggin' knows?

But I will issue my standing $100 challenge to anyone that continues to push this nonsense - show me the ordinance, show me verified evidence of any current/valid LTC holder ever being arrested, detained, or having their firearm confiscated in San Francisco ever.

It's been many many years and it hasn't happened yet.

I get it. Some people really hate San Francisco, and that's their business. But to have to make up **** to validate that hate is childish.

[tiger58]

Tiger, this same BS has been rumored for many many years, and I am here to tell you that it is completely false.

SF cannot arbitrarily disallow a valid and current LTC holder from carrying in the city; they cannot arrest you for it, they cannot legally confiscate your firearm and there is absolutely no "city ordinance" that prohibits legal carry within city limits.

Seriously, I have my LTC and I carry in the city pretty much every day for the last.. jeez... 20 years? damn I'm old. Anyway, it's a common FUD story that some issuing agencies and "CCW trainers" keep promoting. Why? Who friggin' knows?

But I will issue my standing $100 challenge to anyone that continues to push this nonsense - show me the ordinance, show me verified evidence of any current/valid LTC holder ever being arrested, detained, or having their firearm confiscated in San Francisco ever.

It's been many many years and it hasn't happened yet.

I get it. Some people really hate San Francisco, and that's their business. But to have to make up **** to validate that hate is childish.

Sounds like you know the real. That's very good to know. I was just going by what was told to me. thanks!

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[QuarterBoreGunner]

Sounds like you know the real. That's very good to know. I was just going by what was told to me. thanks!

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No problem at all. BUT! Secure in that knowledge, as the old saying goes "concealed is concealed" - I wouldn't test any officer anywhere by declaring that I'm carrying. Why invite trouble?

My issuing agency requires informing an LEO in certain situations; traffic stop, etc. but other than that? Why poke the blue bear?