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  • maxxrange
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    • Mar 2010
    • 101

    Range Mooches

    One of the outdoor ranges I go to I find that most of the time, one individual seems to be there. He moves from rifle to pistol range and rarely shoot more than a dozen shots at each point. What he does is he scrounges brass. Although one of the ranges prohibits picking up brass that does not belong to you, he does it anyway.

    The second time he started sweeping up my brass, I told him that I reloaded and not to take mine. He left it alone for about half an hour but could not contain himself. Once I walked about 30ft away to greet a couple of friends who came to shoot and he swept up every one of my cartridges then moved to the pistol range to get more.

    I am sure this guy sells what he picks up, either as "once fired" or as scrap brass. I don't feel like being a snitch and going to the range officers and whining like someone who sees a hicap mag, so I save all of my deformed, split and defective brass. I reload 10 different calibers and shoot about 3 -5 times a month not including indoor pistol matches. So I go through a lot of brass. I am going to scatter them around and let him sweep them up.

    I thought about putting a pea sized blob of epoxy in a bunch of seemingly good brass, but I kind of feel sorry for the little weasel dude. Maybe he has a drug habit to fund?
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    Steyrlp10
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    • Nov 2008
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    Until I read your location, I thought you were describing the same individual at an Oroville outdoor range. It's both rude and immature for someone to do that, taking someone else's brass.
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    • #3
      winnre
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 9214

      File a police report.
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      • #4
        diginit
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3250

        Tell the RO! If he is selling reloaded as once fired. Someone could get hurt. Not to mention blow up a nice gun. You told him that you reload and he took your brass anyways. Keep in mind that if you see a crime, You are required by law to report it. Anyone that stands idley by are just giving criminals free reign.
        Think about it...
        I would tell him he can pick up my brass only during live fire....My AR kicks them into the hot side of the line...

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        • #5
          bruce381
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2453

          what range?

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          • #6
            DaveFJ80
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2066

            Originally posted by maxxrange
            I don't feel like being a snitch and going to the range officers and whining like someone who sees a hicap mag
            Using a high-cap mag is not illegal or not frowned upon. Stealing brass is frowned upon and could be in a way theft of your property, especially if you have clearly stated that it's yours and that you are keeping it. But that's over analyzing it.

            Complain to an RO so this guy will stop, otherwise he's going to keep on doing this. If you see the guy again, make a scene and yell at him (yes, borderline crazy-mode on him), and most likely he'll remember that and stay away from you in the future. Sure you may look bad, you may feel bad, but you won't have to worry about him stealing your brass.... unless he takes it wrongly and does something really bad to you

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            • #7
              AndrewMendez
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              • Jan 2009
              • 6782

              Originally posted by diginit
              Tell the RO! If he is selling reloaded as once fired. Someone could get hurt. Not to mention blow up a nice gun. You told him that you reload and he took your brass anyways. Keep in mind that if you see a crime, You are required by law to report it. Anyone that stands idley by are just giving criminals free reign.
              Think about it...
              I would tell him he can pick up my brass only during live fire....My AR kicks them into the hot side of the line...
              I bet you can reload that same brass ten times, and it won't explode, or miss fire for that matter. Brass is pretty solid. once fired, twice fired....all the same, unless you see it start bulging or looking funny, seriously dented, its usually good to reload.
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              • #8
                YourHuckleberry
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 880

                Originally posted by winnre
                File a police report.
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                • #9
                  grim1U
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1363

                  I have plenty of people ask me at the range if they can have my fired brass. Since I don't reload I always say "Yes." They've always waited until I was done firing a string and start reloading mags and then they sweep up my fired brass.

                  I don't mind at all, but they always ask me and follow proper range etiquette. I've seen where they've asked others and are told "No," they are polite and make it a point not to take that person's brass. All are happy.

                  The guy at your range just sounds like a douche with no manners from your description.

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                  • #10
                    Boltz
                    Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 406

                    You tell the guy that he can't take your brass, and he comes back later and takes it. But since you don't want to "snitch" even though he stole your stuff, he's going to continue the behavior. I guess that's acceptable to you?

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                    • #11
                      send it_hit
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 2454

                      Originally posted by DaveFJ80
                      If you see the guy again, make a scene and yell at him (yes, borderline crazy-mode on him), and most likely he'll remember that and stay away from you in the future. Sure you may look bad, you may feel bad, but you won't have to worry about him stealing your brass.... unless he takes it wrongly and does something really bad to you
                      That's the best idea so far... Flip out on him. He won't forget it.

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                      • #12
                        Rule .308
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2531

                        Dude, friggin man up already. You do not want him to take what is rightfully yours, you have asked him not to and he does anyhow, confront his dumbass, forcefully and sternly and he will go away. This is "dog politics 101", once you have asked him, back off like you did, let him move in to swoop on your brass and then walk right over and ask him just what the heck he thinks he is doing and if he offers any resistance whatsoever then offer to stick that broom where the sun doesn't shine.

                        I have had similar situations at Burro and have had to set the brass scroungers straight before, but only once, if you say it like you mean it they won't come back, last thing the lowlifes want is a confrontation, especially with someone who is armed.

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                          diginit
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                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3250

                          Originally posted by ANDREWMENDEZ
                          I bet you can reload that same brass ten times, and it won't explode, or miss fire for that matter. Brass is pretty solid. once fired, twice fired....all the same, unless you see it start bulging or looking funny, seriously dented, its usually good to reload.
                          1. Misfires are caused by bad primers or firearm malfunction.
                          2. Brass is a plyable metal. 12 reloads for pistol. 6 for rifle. If you load under max. and not +P
                          3. Overworked or over charged brass will explode or at least crack the necks.

                          As for brass bulging or "Looking funny"? Brass will conform to the chamber. It is then ejected in the same form. Your post is FULL of looking funny. Moderator, Chapter leader, legislator, or whatever. I am truly disgusted with your reply...
                          Have you ever reloaded so much as 10 rnds? Read a reloading manual?
                          I hope the thief is not selling 10X fired as once fired. Someone could lose fingers on their third reload. Or do you disagree with this fact also?

                          Major FAIL! James.
                          Last edited by diginit; 11-21-2010, 8:27 PM.

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                          • #14
                            lorax3
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 4633

                            Originally posted by diginit
                            Keep in mind that if you see a crime, You are required by law to report it.
                            If serious have any citations to support that?

                            In most cases there is no duty to act/report. In the civil world those in certain classes or situations have a legal duty to act/rescue, but criminally I do not know of any statues that require one to report a crime. (Although think there may be one very specific statute for child abuse)
                            Last edited by lorax3; 11-22-2010, 12:02 AM.
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                            The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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                            • #15
                              joelogic
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2008
                              • 6593

                              Granted my knowledge of this comes from a Seinfield episode, it still seems relevant. Isnt part of the Good Samaritan Law that you provide assistance? If someone is being robbed arent I required to call 911? Ethically, of course. But legally?
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