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  • Dubious_Beans
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 3721

    We've most likely lost Pine Flat Road... so it seems to me that if we want to keep Boggs Mountain open that we need to get a solid and ongoing clean up effort going.
    Well, first of all, THANK YOU to the folks who actually go and clean up places like pine flat. It's nice to know there's still a few folks who care.

    But... I think the internet is going to kill MANY shooting areas.

    I don't know the real status of Pine Flat. I wasn't aware that there was any BLM land up there. I thought it was ALL private property..
    But I know that folks have been shooting there for decades and I used to shoot there occasionally myself many years ago.

    But when I used to go it wasn't full of trash. Maybe folks had a little more respect, or maybe the "good guys" who were willing to clean up still outnumbered the "bad guys" who littered.
    But I think mostly there just weren't as many people and most of them were fairly local and actually cared a little bit about the area.

    But the internet is changing things. Small "local secret" areas where one can go shoot are being posted on internet forums, along with invites for "all to come and shoot at this cool spot". Come on SoCal, Come on Oakland, Come One and All and shoot at this tiny little place up a rural road out of healdsburg...

    It attracts a LOT of attention and traffic to a small spot.
    More people = more trash.
    More people = more drunks, litterers, losers, trouble makers, and unsafe shooters.
    More folks from "out of the area" usually means a higher percentage of people who just don't care. Go party, shoot up the place, and leave your trash. Let the locals clean it up, we're going home now.
    More people also means more traffic and noise and trash for the people who LIVE along Pine Flat rd.

    [rant] Yeah, people LIVE out there, and they're sick of listening to your stupid noisy loud exhaust system and your stupid loud music as you blast up the hill, and they are sick of picking up your coors cans and your Mc.D's burger wrappers that you toss out, and they're sick of having all their "No Trespassing" signs shot full of holes. Either have some friggin' manners or go home and irritate your own neighbors. [/rant]
    (sorry, that rant was brought to you by someone who LIVES on a small rural road not totally unlike pine flat and wishes that SOME of you would keep your lazy sloppy ghetto behavior at home)

    Neighbors who might have been cool with a few folks going up to shoot once in a while might not be so happy to have the whole freaking world driving by and using it for a shooting gallery. Sooner or later *someone* is going to get irritated and start pressuring the owners of the land, whether it's private or BLM to take some action against it.

    A few complaints and few photos of all the trash and the shot up refrigerators and tons of brass and shotgun casings, sent to the right people... local landowners , county inspectors, whoever, and it's all over. (and doesn't it paint a pretty picture about how responsible gun owners are if it gets to the local news?)

    I won't be surprised if Pine Flat becomes off-limits for shooting. It's been too well advertised and attracts too much attention now.

    I think that folks who have found nice quiet little local places where they can shoot safely and hassle free, would REALLY be smart to STFU and not advertise it to the whole freaking world.

    My heartfelt thanks goes out to the folks who help clean up places like pine flat.

    But folks who post about little places like pine flat on the internet certainly can't complain when they get trashed or SHUT DOWN. (And thanks a hell of a lot from the rest of the locals who were smart enough not to advertise, but got screwed by the fools who did.)
    And when places like pine flat are gone they're gone for good, and there's less and less places all the time.

    They are valuable places and it's stupid to tell everyone on the internet where you keep your valuables. Keep it clean and keep it secret, and MAYBE you'll get to keep that favorite rural shooting spot for a few more years, if you're lucky and no one else blows it for you.

    sigh....

    Adios, Pine Flat.



    D.Beans

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    • Baggaratzi
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 20

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      • zfields
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2010
        • 13658

        Wow, grew up in healdsburg and never knew this spot existed, to bad its thrashed.

        Next time we have a crew going up to shoot and clean, count me in. Gotta carpool though, my little rice rocket ride doesnt like dirt roads.
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        • Spyder
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2008
          • 17022

          Well, I've finally moved to the area...any more word on what's going on up there?

          If anyone plans a cleanup/workday/whatever, make sure you pm me. I'm in for it, for sure. And if anyone has contact info for the people in charge, please pm me as well. I'd like to get ahold of them and do some diplomat work!

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          • mrgrizzly
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 6

            just sad

            wow i just went up to Cobb and its already trashed again me and 2 other friends just spent 3 hr 2 weeks ago and cleaed the whole place up . there was a couple of fire extinguishers a TV and a dish washer . this time a person left a center console for a truck with there names in it after they shot it im tempted to ship there garbage back to them

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            • ricochet
              Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 292

              Originally posted by mrgrizzly
              wow i just went up to Cobb and its already trashed again me and 2 other friends just spent 3 hr 2 weeks ago and cleaed the whole place up . there was a couple of fire extinguishers a TV and a dish washer . this time a person left a center console for a truck with there names in it after they shot it im tempted to ship there garbage back to them
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              • pigman
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 684

                Maybe just a letter telling them to clean up or they are no longer welcome to shoot there. Or hand it over to the Fire guys and have them deal with it. Maybe an official notice on letter head requesting they no longer use the range would help.

                The Fire Guy usually rolls around with trash bags and hand them out to folks shooting, has them clean up whatever is left from others.

                Most people clean up, but the few are a Pain.
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                • mike_the_wino
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2871

                  If/ when it dries up a bit I could borrow a 2wd pick up and lend a hand.

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                  • AngelZ3R0
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 356

                    see this sucks i never knew about places like this i always have to go to cow mountain or two rock and i don't like two rock. so can you still shoot here or what i am willing to clean my messes and a little of some one else.

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                    • Spyder
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 17022

                      There is a chunk of BLM land up there. The gate at the end, on the right, is a BLM gate. I just haven't figured out who to talk to about it yet.

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                      • Spyder
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 17022

                        Originally posted by mrgrizzly
                        This time a person left a center console for a truck with there names in it after they shot it im tempted to ship there garbage back to them
                        Where is Cobb at?


                        Originally posted by AngelZ3R0
                        see this sucks i never knew about places like this i always have to go to cow mountain or two rock and i don't like two rock. so can you still shoot here or what i am willing to clean my messes and a little of some one else.
                        What and where is Two Rock? I just moved to Sonoma Co., and was planning on using Pine Flat. That's obviously not going to happen anytime soon and am looking for other shooting spots...
                        ETA: ...I take it two rock is the Circle S ranch range?

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                        • BigDogatPlay
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 7362

                          Originally posted by Spyder
                          Where is Cobb at?
                          Lake County... more specifically Boggs Mountian State Demonstration Forest.

                          ETA: ...I take it two rock is the Circle S ranch range?
                          Yes, it is.
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                          • thomashoward
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1991

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                            • AngelZ3R0
                              Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 356

                              yes circle s ranch it cost ten dollars a day per person the range is decent i just do like the management there(not the range officers i guess you would call them there hella cool every time Im there if one has his guns they always let me shoot them) i dont like the owner to much but beside that its cool

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                              • AngelZ3R0
                                Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 356

                                I meant don't

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