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  • #16
    budprop
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 190

    Originally posted by Norinco522
    I assure you that I am indeed thirteen years old, albeit nearing fourteen. I've scored a 2260 on the SAT's, on my first time--no joke!

    But, I digress. My father does have one prime sporting interest: ping-pong, a sport to China much like football is to the United States. To say the least, he's very good at the sport; despite being in his mid-forties, he still manages to routinely whip other players ten to fifteen years his junior, at the local community center. Age has evidently not taken the same toll on his ping-pong prowess--but I do not think the same can be said for shooting. I mean no offense to all you older shooters out there, but I've read countless threads about older, blurry eyes--hence why I want to start early and not wait until I hit the magic age of eighteen. However, I am nearsighted and wear prescription glasses--so that's probably a moot point anyway.

    Unfortunately, I have already attempted this ping-pong route with my father. I have tried likening the purchase of a .22 rifle to the purchase of a new ping-pong paddle, but he still stubbornly believes that having a rifle will inevitably lead to an accident. Recently, as I have described, I have made some level of progress in my goals; he reluctantly agreed to take me to a local range for a basic safety class, and in the future, use rental firearms on a semi-routine basis. Though I have decided to leave him alone and enjoy these spoils of war, lest future argument destroy them, I still desire my own firearm. In fairness to him, I'll admit there's some logic in having a beginner use an entry-grade firearm for some time, as any inherent accuracy in the firearm will be lost in the inexperience of the shooter. Furthermore, as we live in a suburban area, storing the firearm at home does not make sense either, as the firearm will be used only at the range anyway.

    My intended compromise is to store the rifle, ammunition, and accessories in a rented range locker, to avoid the "inevitable tragedy" that my father goes on about. I have made this offer to no avail, but I will try again in the future--this time with the child-father sporting argument that you brought up; I thank you for the idea. It is a shame, too--we actually relate very well, even to the point of political discussions.

    Once again, I thank you all for your help.
    With an SAT of 2260 what do you need us for, your intelligence at 13 easily outmatches 90% (a guess I am sure you know the actual statistic) of us on here.
    First thing you need to do is stop messing around on the computer. In forums it is called trolling, and you sir are a troll. Now, go away and bug the folks on Craigslist.
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    • #17
      AbrahamBurden
      Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 261

      If calmly, politely, and articulately requesting advice for a personal dilemma over the internet is considered trolling, then so be it. I will not attempt to convince you of my true intentions behind this thread, as doing so would be impossible over the disembodied words of the internet, stripped of true humanity. I will not stop "messing around on the computer", as you put it--I was not aware that my previous behavior constituted doing so. And I was not aware that I pushed my increased intelligence over that of "90% of...us on here"--only that I spend more thought and vocabulary on these forum posts than the average Netizen does.

      Now that I have established that, I digress. The visit to the shooting range and safety class has moved my father's perception of firearms greatly, now that both of us have pulled the trigger for the first time. 50 rounds of factory reloaded .45 Auto cartridges through a 1911 has improved his perspective considerably; however, he remains intractable over the matter of purchase. His logic is that rental alone allows a much greater range of firearm use, without the responsibility that actual ownership entails. Also, he said, any .22 that I purchased would be a low-grade model and be a potential hazard, as he believes that I do not have the knowledge of proper firearm maintenance. My logic is that ownership gives me a repeatable and dependable platform that I can improve my skill on over a long-term period. Furthermore, I know models that possess relative quality for low price and I know how to clean a firearm. He broke the argument off there, and I knew better than to needle him further--but I also knew that I was closer than ever before. Some time for him to cool off, and I'll try the old argument again--but with my own financial segment out of the equation, pushing him into spending several hundred dollars on an implement he feels reluctant about to begin with will be a highly difficult matter. But again, I am closer than ever before.

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      • #18
        nine mil thrill
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 1054

        Originally posted by Fatstackz
        OK, I'm calling BS ont this thread. It would be to good to be true to have a thirteen year old with that much logical thought process. Expeirment over.

        i agree !! no 13 year old uses words like adamant, commensurate....etc......
        ....not for a minute !!
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        • #19
          sima09
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 193

          Attention Calgunners! There are smart kids out there! Good for him that he put some thought into what he is going to write and didn't write like most 13 years olds who tend 2 rite like diz 2 u n me cuz der iming every 4 secs...(I'm 20 I can read that can you lol)

          That said...do you have an uncle/aunt who likes shooting or who could take you? Cousins maybe who are over 18? Parents usually do what they think is best for their kids, but it's the older cousins/aunts/uncles/gandparents who get to teach you all the "forbidden" stuff. (sneaking soda/candies/cookies/t rated games/bad words) In this case maybe you have a cousin who is also into firearms who could take you more regularly.
          "If guns kill people do pencils misspell words?"

          "I do not agree with a word you say, Sir, but I will fight to the DEATH for your RIGHT to say it!"


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          • #20
            Mssr. Eleganté
            Blue Blaze Irregular
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 10401

            The last time I called BS troll on an Asian kid that seemed a little too smart it turned out to be TheSoupnazi. Now he is a Marine Corps officer. Sometimes Asian teenagers are just that smart.
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            • #21
              theduece
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 768

              Well I say good for you and congratulations on actually getting your father to the range. I grew up in a similiar household ( as far as parents bieng anti as well as immigrants) and had to wait untill 18 to purchase my own gun. It wasn't untill 13 years later I talked my dad into going shooting with me, now every time we gets the chance he asks me to go.
              ......

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              • #22
                AbrahamBurden
                Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 261

                Admittedly thread necromancy...

                But, after years of effort, I have finally succeeded in pushing my parents into meeting my demands. After achieving an SAT score of 2360 this year as a high school freshman, I have received the reward of a firearm. The terms of the deal I have made with my father are to, in writing, completely describe the process of purchasing, storing, and transporting a firearm--which I have already done. He is digesting the material in the document I have written, and will soon make his decision on when to purchase. But soon, within the next month I should be able to become the proud owner of either a Ruger 10/22 or an NS-522 rifle. A .22 is a must here; it is the ideal cartridge for beginning shooters.

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                • #23
                  Coyotegunner
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1353

                  If I may interject something from some experience with kids learning the use and handling of guns.I live in Apple Valley and belong to the AV Gun Club.Our club offers NRA sanctioned shooting events weekly for what they call juniors.22s are a big part of it,as well as shotgun/trap.They provide guns if you do not have your own yet.Point is,if it is OK with your parents,I am sure you would have a mentor or several willing to help you shoot.Check your local gun shops for gun clubs or place to shoot.I hope you find someone to help you get going.Good luck and welcome to the sport.By the way.Invite your parents along at some point.They may even join you.

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