who hates this?

[stix213]

When you, a young feller, go into a gun store to purchase a firearm... and makes no difference on exact age. Let's just say this; I'm 52 years of age, and you are say under 30... You are a young feller to me.

I worked in a gun store for about 4 years, and now operate my own place.

It makes NO difference to me what you think, moreover, I seriously care less how you FEEL about it. Here is what I will red light you on, and remember... I have the store; I am in charge, you ARE NOT.

Be a good and respectable person, and I will be the very best sales associate I can possibly be for your purchase... "I work for you", and I give you my word of honor on that. I can assure you of one thing, I like guns as much as you… possibly more than you do.

Very sorry if this sounds harsh, I am very sorry and I apologize in advance. This not meant to hurt your feelings. All you have to do is be a respectable person and adhere to the following. Anything less is disrespect and I do not care if you take your business elsewhere... if you are disrespectful, I DO NOT want your type of 'disrespectful' business - therefore we would agree and so GET OUT!

Gun Dealers get enough disrespect from the gun grabbers and their politicians... we sure as hale don't need it from you!

Here are a few of my peeves:

Do not walk up to the gun counter acting like a tough-guy, because it DOES NOT make you appear older.

Take OFF the sunglasses!

Do not get all mouthy with me when I ask you for your I.D. if you want me to take a gun out of the glass case or from the rack so you can demo it. When I say "sure, may I first see your I.D. and verify your age?" – Please don’t say anything, simply get your wallet, open it, take your I.D. out and peacefully hand it to me. I will verify your age, and then if all is good... we may continue, period. In most cases, I am not only checking your age, I am checking your attitude as well, so please don’t blow it.

Do not wear your baseball cap sideways! - Turn your baseball cap straight where the bill is above your forehead... or even turn it all the way straight back, bill over your neck... I am okay with that. But, dude... sideways just REALLY makes you look (excuse me) DUMB! Moreover, I DO NOT care to sell a gun to someone what looks DUMB!

Before you come to a gun store... get those ridiculous baggy pants with the crotch wayyyyyyy down between your knees and your underwear showing all the way up to your NECK! Dude... I seen girls your own age LAUGH at you young fellers thinking it's cool... well it aint... and IT AINT cool especially in a gun shop, let alone what your dang girlfriend laughing at you!

Note, a little baggy is the fashion… I can go with that. Hey, I wore bell-bottoms when I was a kid, so I understand. The thing I’m talking about is the extreme mega baggy… well, you know. Just think a little before you go firearm shopping.

Do NOT wear gang colors and expect to get two steps inside my door! I DO NOT want to hear "oh, I'm not in a gang...", because if you are a kid, excuse me... if you are 'young' then you KNOW what gang colors are, and SO DO I know what they are... I will call you on it. I figure if you have enough b@lls to walk in a gun store wearing gang clothing and expect me to show you a firearm... I have enough b@lls to call you on it!

I wish I had a Polaroid and look on the face when I say "hey... NO GANG CLOTHING in here, you gonna have to leave!"

Well, I am certain I may have left something out, but suffice it to say 'I think y'all git my point!'

Respectable is the key word here gents... respect me the older guy, and I will respect you ten fold, I guarantee it!

Then when you get your own shop, you can do what you want.

Wow, I'm old enough to have few problems at gun stores, and I don't dress or act in any way like you are peeved about, but remind me to never shop in your store out of principle.

Anyone who would even think of turning away a customer over a hat fashion statement has clearly lost all concept of the relationship they should be having with their customer. If you think your place is doing so great that you can treat your customers like crap just because you are so out of touch you don't even understand the way young people dress anymore, then I hope you go out of business.

And BTW, red, blue, gold, black, grey, and white are colors used by the large gangs you should be familiar with, with smaller local gangs often picking various other colors. Good luck letting any customers in with your no gang color moronic policy, cause there isn't a single color that isn't claimed by a gang. So since you don't let any gang colors in, I'm assuming all your customers shop in the nude, right?

Then when you get your own shop, you can do what you want.

What I want is to not support completely disrespectful and ignorant shop owners on a power trip, so yeah that means I'm not shopping at your place. I really don't care that you would be fine with how I dress with my button up shirt after getting off work from my tech job, I would be completely disgusted with you if I saw you treat another customer the way you just proudly stated you would.

WOW, just wow. Whatever happened to customer service... You act like you are owed your business, plus you come off as a total racist seeing that the sideways hat, the baggy pants, and pretty much anything fashion related you complained about are urban African American styles whether they are gang affiliated or not (white kids wear that stuff too, but it is a rap/hip hop music culture thing). Why not just put a big 'whites only, and if you ARE white you sure as hell better dress like it' sign up so that your policies are clear?

Good luck to your anti-customer racist gun shop you got going up there... seriously, I wish you would reread your post and understand why the entire thing is so F'd up. I know your post is old, but it made sick enough reading it that I had to respond.

[PRKArms]

The only color that matters is green... (and gold, and platinum)

anyone who thinks differently won't be successful in business.

[bubbapug1]

I'm 19 and I've never had any trouble with that at gun shops, in fact the only time I was asked for ID was last time I was at Big 5.

Heck, I am 53 and they asked me for a ID than refused to dros a SKS they had on the shelf..

[JustGone]

It's not your age, gun store workers are notorious for bad manners and elitism.

Not here in Indiana! They all LOVE the business customers bring in. Every shop I have been in I have been treated with respect and kindness, and they all were eager to answer any questions I had. I'm 19 as well

[forgiven]

Respect seems to gradually be earned with age.

[resident-shooter]

Well, I only bought 1 gun so far and I am 20. So I called around to find the rifle I wanted, and only 2 Big5 stores had them. I went to the closest 1, and took my father (life long hunter, now retired) as an advisor. The guy at the counter and the manager were very helpful and let me check out a few rifles before I bought the one I wanted in the first place. After I was done paying for the rifle, I told them that I am looking to buy a shotgun for home defense in near future. So they gave me a short tour into the world of shotguns and gave a few recommendations. So, I dono.....

[Trench Broom]

One of my brother's friends had a younger brother who went down to a dealership a number of years ago to pick up a new truck. He was about 25 at the time, I believe, but he looked to be around 16. Also, when he arrived on the lot, he had just come from baseball practice, so he was still in his full uniform, cleats and all! Anyway, after a while, the dealer came up to him and asked if he needed any help. The guy turns to the dealer, indicates the new truck he's been checking out, and says, "I'll take it." The dealer looks back ( probobly doing a double-take, or some such ) and says, "Go home and bring your father back with you, and then we'll talk." Well, this guy reaches into his pocket, pulls out his drivers licencse, shows it to the dealer, then pulls out a huge wad of $100.00 bills, holds it right in front of the other man's face and says, "F@#k you. You just lost a sale." What I wouldn't give to have been a fly on the wall that day!

[JustGone]

Well, I only bought 1 gun so far and I am 20. So I called around to find the rifle I wanted, and only 2 Big5 stores had them. I went to the closest 1, and took my father (life long hunter, now retired) as an advisor. The guy at the counter and the manager were very helpful and let me check out a few rifles before I bought the one I wanted in the first place. After I was done paying for the rifle, I told them that I am looking to buy a shotgun for home defense in near future. So they gave me a short tour into the world of shotguns and gave a few recommendations. So, I dono.....

The Big 5 on arden? I bought my first shotgun there, very nice fellas there!

[resident-shooter]

One of my brother's friends had a younger brother who went down to a dealership a number of years ago to pick up a new truck. He was about 25 at the time, I believe, but he looked to be around 16. Also, when he arrived on the lot, he had just come from baseball practice, so he was still in his full uniform, cleats and all! Anyway, after a while, the dealer came up to him and asked if he needed any help. The guy turns to the dealer, indicates the new truck he's been checking out, and says, "I'll take it." The dealer looks back ( probobly doing a double-take, or some such ) and says, "Go home and bring your father back with you, and then we'll talk." Well, this guy reaches into his pocket, pulls out his drivers licencse, shows it to the dealer, then pulls out a huge wad of $100.00 bills, holds it right in front of the other man's face and says, "F@#k you. You just lost a sale." What I wouldn't give to have been a fly on the wall that day!

HAHHAH I have been there with dealership and cars. I had a budget of 15-20 grand, but dealers doubted me... well, they lost the customer!

The Big 5 on arden? I bought my first shotgun there, very nice fellas there!

No, I got mine from the one in Davis. Very friendly and helpful people there, unlike River City gun exchange where I went yesterday......

[Lancear15]

After work a couple of days ago I went to the grocery store to buy some beer and a steak to grill. When I got home the steak wasn't in the bag. But, the receipt showed they charged me. After 3 hours of commuting and 10 hours working I sure as hell wasn't going back to the store.

The next day I went back with my receipt to buy more beer and another steak. I wanted the price of the steak I didn't get taken off my bill. Since I work construction I was dressed in drabby clothes and unshaven for a few days.

They called the manager over, she gives me the 3rd degree and looks at at me like I am some kind of horrible, lying, scum bag. They finally give my the refund and don't even come close to apologizing. I was so temped to come back in with my paycheck stub showing I've already made over 140K this year and yell at her "Don't judge a book by its cover B!T@# !!!"

[mlatino]

After work a couple of days ago I went to the grocery store to buy some beer and a steak to grill. When I got home the steak wasn't in the bag. But, the receipt showed they charged me. After 3 hours of commuting and 10 hours working I sure as hell wasn't going back to the store.

The next day I went back with my receipt to buy more beer and another steak. I wanted the price of the steak I didn't get taken off my bill. Since I work construction I was dressed in drabby clothes and unshaven for a few days.

They called the manager over, she gives me the 3rd degree and looks at at me like I am some kind of horrible, lying, scum bag. They finally give my the refund and don't even come close to apologizing. I was so temped to come back in with my paycheck stub showing I've already made over 140K this year and yell at her "Don't judge a book by its cover B!T@# !!!"

I must be in the wrong business.. I know lots of people in construction and they're all laid off / looking for work. How do you manage to do so well in construction in today's economy?

[FS00008]

HAHHAH I have been there with dealership and cars. I had a budget of 15-20 grand, but dealers doubted me... well, they lost the customer!




No, I got mine from the one in Davis. Very friendly and helpful people there, unlike River City gun exchange where I went yesterday......

Sounds like when I went to buy my truck wehn I had it Valeriy...


Btw... one more day on that 11 day hell :-)

[Meety Peety]

I was so temped to come back in with my paycheck stub showing I've already made over 140K this year and yell at her "Don't judge a book by its cover B!T@# !!!"

Lol feild worker making over 140k? I'm pretty sure just about everyone in the industry just called BS on that one. Most GF/PMs don't even pull in over 120k.. and to see them "in drabby clothes and unshaven" would be pretty laughable.

Curious, what trade and local? Assuming you drive 3 hours, the Per Diem and possible prevailing wage in addition to possible 10% GF pay and working 6 10s.. lets just say it still doesn't add up ;P

[FNH5-7]

Based on my experience here's my take on this.

1. Wear appropriate clothes. Don't go into a gun shop looking like a hood rat, they don't want your business. In this world, unfortunately you are treated based on what you look like. You don't have to go out and buy a new outfit just wear something that's not baggy, gun shops don't want to be associated with gangs. I'm not saying change all of your wore drobe, if you wear baggy clothing just change into something plain when your in a gun shop.

2. Use regular english

3. Be polite

I have had a bad experience with gun shops not dramatic but unpleasant. In all the other gun shops I'm treated like an adult but here in the local gun shop the guy doesn't even want to show me a pistol and that was with my DAD present, I wasn't even allowed to touch it and we had already purchased some ammo so I mean they weren't working for nothing.

In all the other places they show me what ever I want . We go to our local gun shop because all the other gun shops are at least 45 mins away. I live in the country side.

Oh yea and just a heads up, don't go into a gun shop and say I'm just looking they don't like that. We said that and were asked about 5 times in 5 minutes if we needed any help and it wasnt in a very polite way.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

ah wanna know if im alone on dis here one. otay who hates when peeps treat us like crap cuz we's iz younger an' iz into guns? otay cuz everytime ah jet ta uh gat shop da peeps dont even wanna he`p me cuz im not 60 or sumfin