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  • LadySmith
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 8

    Girls And Guns

  • #2
    movie zombie
    Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2007
    • 14644

    i've had discussions with moderators on this very topic. there is a lot of soft porn but its gotten better, imo. while i realize that guns are mainly a guy thing, this website also says it wants women to participate and support the 2nd amendment. i think the soft porn is enough to turn many women away. i also think there are enough websites out there to satisfy the porn needs of the members at calguns. and just what does a crotch shot of a woman spread eagled holding a gun have to do with supporting guns and promoting gun ownership?

    i do think the moderators have been responsive and open to suggestions when something is out of line. it is my understanding that they've had male calgunners contact them regarding the soft porn nature of some of the postings as well.

    why would i continue to look at the thread? well, for one its good for me to see other women with guns: ideas re stance and what i might want to consider buying. it also is a way of meeting the other half of some of the guys that participate here. and i fell in lust with a rifle that a group of military women were using.

    good question!

    movie zombie
    "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
    Originally posted by The Shootist
    Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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    • #3
      Nemo
      Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 288

      Funny you should mention that...when I peruse those "Girls w/ Guns(tm)" photos, The first thing I see is whether or not they have their finger outside the trigger guard, and whether their gun handling is skillful and safe. Bad gun handling bothers me more than objectification.

      I have no inherent problem with porn, be its core soft or hard. That said, I think that those sorts of photos, and the slavering responses to 'em, can really drive some women away from the site. I understand that one woman who had photos posted of her on the Girls and Guns thread ended up getting e-stalked by at least one member, and that, I feel, was truly out of line and created an unwelcome, hell, a downright unsafe, atmosphere. I'm glad that the moderators have been so open to handling the issue, though.

      It's good that most of the guys on the forum really are open to womens' participation in shooting sports and second amendment issues; the few that just want women around for their entertainment and/or attractiveness quotient miss the point. That said, the Girls and Guns thread has plenty of images of women who are shooting for their own reasons, with their own equipment, having a fine time: that's useful and valuable.
      Last edited by Nemo; 10-07-2008, 12:01 PM.

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      • #4
        Annie Oakley
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 811

        I don't really pay attention to those guys, I just think they are misplaced neanderthals. But I did post "naked chicks with guns" just for fun.

        sigpic "This we'll defend"- U.S. Army Motto
        "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." --Susan B. Anthony (1820-1906), speech in San Franscisco, July 1871

        NRA Life Member

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        • #5
          masameet
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 4487

          Can't say I've seen those images.

          And I guess if I had to think about the topic, it would be another "I don't care" kinda thing for me.

          Now show me pix of near naked guys and I'm going to look!

          And if they're handling a custom 1911, Woo-hoo! Give me close-ups of that .45!
          x

          "Let those find fault whose wit's so very small,
          They've need to show that they can think at all;
          Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow;
          He who would search for pearls, must dive below." -- John Dryden

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          • #6
            duenor
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Mar 2007
            • 4617

            can I say something?
            I think if these "misplaced neanderthals" thought girls would actually get turned on seeing them pose suggestively with guns in their underwear, they'd do it too. But you see... society is so screwed up and unfair because beer bellies and muffin tops aren't equally appreciated as six-packs, cut triceps, and that little muscle dimple thing that male models have right below the belt line on either side of their generous... anatomicals.

            I don't think its sexist - objectivist, possibly, but the deadly and lethal is always beautiful and mesmerizing.

            here's a pic of me with mine


            Entreprise Arms - FFL 07 manufacturer of CA-Legal FAL type rifles in Baldwin Park, CA.
            EAI IMBEL-FAL 7.62x51 NATO, CA Legal: $999 shipped www.entreprise.com
            SIG, Beretta, Glock, XD, HK Tritium GS sights

            "Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization."

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            • #7
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              I can be sexy too!!!






              FYI, there WAS a "Guys with guns" thread a while back that XCRMonger started. It got quite a few responses.
              Please read the Calguns Wiki
              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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              • #8
                movie zombie
                Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jul 2007
                • 14644

                no good guys: you're posting in the ladies forum. here you should be greased up, naked except for a thong, posing with your crotch forward, holding a 1911 or if you really want my attention a revolver. you're both good looking and i encourage you to comply! equal opportunity soft porn! now that's an amendment i could really support!


                movie zombie
                "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
                Originally posted by The Shootist
                Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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                • #9
                  duenor
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4617

                  Well, I posted the pics to demonstrate that guys don't mind being "objectified" either - but I suppose you are right in that more skin needs to be shown out of an interest in fairness. Hm. Well, if you'd like to be my photographer, I have a whole lot of picture worthy guns.

                  Here's a pic of me taken recently. There is a gun in the room, although obviously not on me. This is at my GF's place, on my birthday. The gun was a BG Makarov with 8 rounds of Wolf hardball. I needed a gun small enough to conceal in my laptop bag's CD pocket.

                  I seriously think that many guys secretly would like to have suggestive (albeit masculine) pictures taken of them with their toys. The problem is broaching the subject - "so... how I pump iron for about an hour, you oil me up, then I'll wear one of your thongs and drape myself over a leather couch while making sweet sensitive love to a 1938 Finnish M39 Nagant in Artic Birch?"

                  Entreprise Arms - FFL 07 manufacturer of CA-Legal FAL type rifles in Baldwin Park, CA.
                  EAI IMBEL-FAL 7.62x51 NATO, CA Legal: $999 shipped www.entreprise.com
                  SIG, Beretta, Glock, XD, HK Tritium GS sights

                  "Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization."

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                  • #10
                    duenor
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4617

                    PS: I really like the Hello Kitty rifle. getting one would be like an investment - girls would love your rifle.
                    Entreprise Arms - FFL 07 manufacturer of CA-Legal FAL type rifles in Baldwin Park, CA.
                    EAI IMBEL-FAL 7.62x51 NATO, CA Legal: $999 shipped www.entreprise.com
                    SIG, Beretta, Glock, XD, HK Tritium GS sights

                    "Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization."

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                    • #11
                      CHS
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11338

                      Originally posted by movie zombie
                      holding a 1911 or if you really want my attention a revolver.
                      Ok.. Which revolver? I've got an SP101, Super Redhawk, and S&W 66-1. All three in stainless.

                      Honestly though, you don't want to see me oiled up and in a thong
                      Please read the Calguns Wiki
                      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                      • #12
                        movie zombie
                        Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 14644

                        belated happy birthday, duenor! you're a good sport for playing!

                        bdschms, i agree: that pink rifle is a chick magnet....good luck. and for future picture posting reference, i prefer the S&W 66-1 stainless...so much so i bought one this summer with a 4 inch barrel from another calgunner.

                        movie zombie
                        "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
                        Originally posted by The Shootist
                        Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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                        • #13
                          Moonclip
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4390

                          Originally posted by bdsmchs
                          FYI, there WAS a "Guys with guns" thread a while back that XCRMonger started. It got quite a few responses.
                          It got to pver 10 pages because IIRC she promised to post risque pictures of herself once it did...

                          And I love the Hello Kitty AR, I may do a rifle that way and with rhinestones eventually just for fun or for my sister.
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                          7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                          9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                          .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                          .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                          20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                          • #14
                            Moonclip
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4390

                            ....
                            Last edited by Moonclip; 10-07-2008, 8:13 PM. Reason: double post
                            .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                            7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                            9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                            .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                            .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                            20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                            • #15
                              Moonclip
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 4390

                              Originally posted by bdsmchs
                              Ok.. Which revolver? I've got an SP101, Super Redhawk, and S&W 66-1. All three in stainless.

                              Honestly though, you don't want to see me oiled up and in a thong
                              That goes double for me! Speedos, thongs, ect and me are a no go.

                              Though I do have 7 revolvers in .357mag alone Maybe I should add a pic to myself to the guys and guns thread...

                              I do look at the girls and guns thread, hey I'm a guy! But the guys that obsess over such pics remind me of someone who would do the Tim Allen Home Improvement grunt while sitting around in dirty underwear watching football and drinking PBR.
                              .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                              7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                              9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                              .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                              .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                              20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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